KevinR Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 NEVER underestimate the "ingenuity" of a previous owner ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 can you get a vaccination against them ??? nearly as bad a s moving house and trying to unravel the PO electrical or plumbing wizardry pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu1ckn1ck Posted October 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 32 minutes ago, KevinR said: NEVER underestimate the "ingenuity" of a previous owner ! Actually it was not the previous owner of my car that was to blame in this instance. I bought the full assemblies pictured , advertised as refurbished, from Spitfire Graveyard this year. I doubt if the car has done 200 miles since they were installed. I might have a quiet word with S G but I guess caveat emptor will be the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 may be 'grave yard' is nearer the mark ??? all else seems ok doesnt it ????? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 I can make no judgement other than to say a number of years ago I bought three items from them as separate transactions; each came out of the box, and each went straight to the skip as beyond use or repair. I haven't dealt with them since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu1ckn1ck Posted October 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 57 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: may be 'grave yard' is nearer the mark ??? all else seems ok doesnt it ????? Pete The offside didn't rock when Paul checked it on Saturday but I will have the wheel and drum off to see if that hub has also been fitted with the help of a sledge hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 To be fair to the original assembler, they'd not scrimped on grease or black paint! The 'paperweight' hub photo shows it in its lightweight state following the removal of the paint from the drum mounting face. Just pleased it was a problem with the hub, not the shaft, and that I threw in my spare as an afterthought as I was leaving home! Got to have some luck sometimes... Gully 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 Are those really the 'Flat' washers that are supposed to be...well....FLAT! They must have been torqued up soooo high at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 Its was twice as thin as it should be and it followed the shape of the hub face ......awfull. I Always advise you dont need a hub puller on rotaflex, but this was a right sod , needed a 200lbft impact gun on the puller Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 So were the splines damaged as well? Hence them being jammed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 no the shaft was fine accepted the replacement hub with hand pressure as it should Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 46 minutes ago, Adrian said: So were the splines damaged as well? Hence them being jammed? The hub splines had corrosion in the bottom of them when we removed the grease and they may have been damaged on another shaft at some point - nothing immediately apparent, but we didn't look too hard after the replacement hub fitted on the shaft as it should have done. Not sure if Nick has investigated more since? Gully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu1ckn1ck Posted October 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 17 hours ago, Gully said: The hub splines had corrosion in the bottom of them when we removed the grease and they may have been damaged on another shaft at some point - nothing immediately apparent, but we didn't look too hard after the replacement hub fitted on the shaft as it should have done. Not sure if Nick has investigated more since? Gully On close inspection the deformed washer working with the locknut had become a perfect "spinning" tool working on the splines at the flange end of the hub. The end of the hub splines had visibly spread to lock the hub and shaft tightly together. See attached pic between 9 and 12 o'clock ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 do we need to start a rogues gallery ??? pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu1ckn1ck Posted October 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: do we need to start a rogues gallery ??? pete A "Black Museum" of Triumph and disaster perhaps .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu1ckn1ck Posted November 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just an update to say that the surgery on the rear hub has worked a treat. So many of the odd noises from the back-end (oo-er) seem to have been eliminated in the process. Many thanks to the surgery team of Pete and Gully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 so we /i can now sleep easy pete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffipaul Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Resurrected thread cos about to put longer m12 rear studs in roto rear hub and anticipating having to remove rear hub as I will not drill hole thro backplate Just hoping to remove hub in situ. Pete Lewis , never to be doubted says hub can be removed without puller. If Pete says so then thats it . However Pete can you advise how to do it.. Also is there the added problem of getting it back on as rotoflex distorts putting shaft out of alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFL Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 36 minutes ago, griffipaul said: Resurrected thread cos about to put longer m12 rear studs in roto rear hub and anticipating having to remove rear hub as I will not drill hole thro backplate Just hoping to remove hub in situ. Pete Lewis , never to be doubted says hub can be removed without puller. If Pete says so then thats it . However Pete can you advise how to do it.. Also is there the added problem of getting it back on as rotoflex distorts putting shaft out of alignment. I fitted slightly longer studs to my Vitesse (Although the standard 3/8" UNF Type) when I fitted some D1 Replica alloys without removing the hub, have you tried to fit the new studs first at an angle then straightening them as they enter the hole in the hub? If they are extra long then you will definitely need to remove them or drill holes. Although the Rotoflex Hubs aren't normally as tight as the swing axle ones, they are still a pretty tight fit (Or should be!). I would still advise using a proper Triumph hub type puller to stop any possible damage to the flanges? Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffipaul Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 cheers Gary They are Canley supplied , M12 , guess they are L Rover. they are approx 9 mm longer. seen stories that longer studs can be fiddled in without removing hub but length has never been qualified. have not fitted them yet still to do wheel and tyre clearance checks and thread engagement 175/70s on 5.5 minilights 25 mm offset replacing 165/80s on 6.0 Cosmics 25mm offset. Fronts fit fine . Just anticipating worst case of what's to come...Rain stopped play today will investigate tomorrow P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 ive only had qu1ckn1cks hub that resisted removal due to spline damage other rotaflex hubs just undo the nut and pull off the hub with fingers .......who said that you cant upset any float as replacing is just as simple feed hub on shaft tighten nut to around 100lbft well thats a wrench without standing on it tight the 12mm studs should pop in easy might need a old wheel nut and spacers to pull it home retorque wheel nuts after a few miles i use 65lbft on 12mm studs pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffipaul Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Cheers Pete sound easy (not) So when you pull the hub off what comes with it ? presumably outer bearing race and oil seal , how do you ensure oil seal goes back in correct position on re assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 on rotaflex when you remove the nut and pull the hub thats all you get just the hub all other stays in place ...unless you want to withdraw the shaft . same on a swing axle non rota but those hubs sit firmly attached to the taper on the shaft ,then a proper puller is essential rotaflex the hub fits on a straight spline , no gripping tapers ,.............. apart from Nicks which had spline damage pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffipaul Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Great Pete , it gets better by the minute, hopefully when I go in the garage to tomorrow it will have removed itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 if the b*ggers stuck on dont quote ME Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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