Puglet1 Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Just to say hello to all in the club. I have posted a few times and have received loads of help Thankyou. We have become the new owners of a Mk2 Vitesse convertible and are looking forward to driving it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 PICTURES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: PICTURES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pete He means of the car, for this site at any rate. 😁 Yes let's have a look at your new pride and joy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete Lewis Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 looks very good i see they have fitted a servo where is the battery ?? Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Yes looks like the battery must be in the boot👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, johny said: Yes looks like the battery must be in the boot👍 I`d want to check the cable(s) size(s), A run of that length could see a fair voltage drop, if wrongly sized.? Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Therell be lots of things for the new owner to check, thats all part of the fun but you do have to pace yourself😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puglet1 Posted February 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Battery is definitely in the boot. Can anyone tell me how Ican judge if the cable is the correct size? Yes, I will be spending an awful lot of time learning about the good and bad points on the car and probably even more time trying to sort it out. One of my first jobs will be to inspect the fuel lines and find out what changes need to be made for E10 /E5 fuel. Previous owner was lucky to live in an area where 4star was being imported until very recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 What does the installation look like? Battery held properly in place on a battery tray or even box bolted into place in the boot? The connection lugs at each each nicely crimped or soldered on? It might say on the cable its size or you can measure the outside diameter and look it up to find the cross sectional area of the copper inside and so the current carrying capacity. The ultimate test of course is if the cable or any of its connections get warm during a good crank of the engine😲 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 One of ours at East Berks has the SERVO in the boot! Another commented “But doesn’t that give you massive pedal travel?” DOH! Doug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Well more liquid, fractionally more compressibility - especially if silicone🤔 Think Id prefer the usual battery/servo arrangement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishawley Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 9 hours ago, Puglet1 said: Can anyone tell me how Ican judge if the cable is the correct size? Worth a look at AutoElectricSupplies pgae https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/752/category/124 A standard Lucas starter motor on 'our' cars has a free running current draw of 60amps but on cold cranking could transiently peak at 300amp or so. But only transiently. So a cable with 10 to 12mm o.d. would be well specified for the job. Less than 8mm would be worrisome. Empirical test is to get an assistant to crank the engine while feeling the cable. If it gets hot to the touch then it's too skinny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puglet1 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Johny. During initial inspection the battery was very secure and strapped down firmly. I will do an in depth inspection of it when I collect the car next week. chrishawley. Fantastic information- just what I need to help understand if it’s ok or not. The link to the AES site was also very helpful. dougbgt6. The brakes felt absolutely fine. Once I collect the car I’ll be able to test them more thoroughly. Thanks all for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Yes when you see the standard of installations/mods on the car you'll be able to get a better feeling for the quality of previous work and corresponding confidence in it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 That looks a lovely original Vitesse and a very late one too, the Leyland Logo badges on your front wings where only fitted on the 1971 manufactured Herald/Vitesse's. I bet your new car also as a Steering lock fitted too, which again became a legal requirement for 1971 manufactured UK Cars, check the commission number on the left of the front bulkhead, the last one made was HC58109CV, I'm sure you will find the number is not far from the end of production With regards to your query on the size of the cable from the rear Battery to the starter, my current Classic also as the Battery in the boot, I'm in the Electrical business and would guess the cable on my car is approximately 40mm2 cable size on the chart given by Chris, this will be fine for your car, just make sure it is routed out of the way of possible damage and securely clipped in place. Any crimped lug connections for the Starter Solenoid and Motor connections should be done with the correct crimping tool and have the correct hole size, 8mm if I remember correctly, all connection to be clean and tight for a low resistance connection. I look forward to seeing more photo's Regards Gary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Gary Flinn said: approximately 40mm O/D size I assume you mean the 40mm^2 or 12.7mm OD size? 40mm OD would be huge! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 hours ago, NonMember said: I assume you mean the 40mm^2 or 12.7mm OD size? 40mm OD would be huge! Yes I was referring to the cable size not overall diameter, I missed the square size symbol out I'm used to dealing with AC cable sizes 25mm2 35mm2 etc, the automotive sizes are slightly different for some reason. Regards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 we mounted the servo in the same location but shortend the battery tray and moved it to the left to gain the space most positon the servo to a sideways fit along side and over the clutch master cyl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 A Girling Power stop type servo was an Original optional extra for the 2 Litre Vitesse's. My car had one fitted, although not originally, I can remember getting the servo off a Bond Equipe 2 Litre in a local scrapyard in the mid 1980's with a guy called John Gregory one of the previous owners of my old Vitesse When I rebuilt the car, I had it refurbished and this photo shows the original fitment location resting side on over the Clutch Master cylinder (I can't find any photo's of it fitted) The two mounting brackets for the servo are visible, these were taken off the Bond with the servo and are presumably part of the original factory fitment. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puglet1 Posted February 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 So many options for the servo positioning. Gary - I guess the chance of finding a Girling power stop will be remote? I particularly like the Pete Lewis option. Once I get to know the car I might think about moving the battery back to the engine compartment. Some great looking engine bays there 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Not sure the Vitesse ever came from Triumph with a servo as space is so tight. The manual shows a fitting kit for GT6 and installation of one on a MK1 next to the battery box but of course they do have a bit more room there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 its very wise to get to know your car and your car gets to know you before you dive into wild ideas and attack the wallet which can get alarming and once youre used to the quirks of previous logic best left alone Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 48 minutes ago, Puglet1 said: So many options for the servo positioning. Gary - I guess the chance of finding a Girling power stop will be remote? I particularly like the Pete Lewis option. Once I get to know the car I might think about moving the battery back to the engine compartment. Some great looking engine bays there 👍 Here's one, not cheap but the same type and size as was fitted on my car? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325534930143?hash=item4bcb64d4df:g:B~0AAOSwnGlfnzI5&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoOMaZmbZp%2FM%2BQ58kbKCbncL9j2T5%2FKkQilupIBLq9Gpai3%2F2RvV1W6DD5pMt%2BgBLhD1NCRjrxiz%2BfV6T0Uze91iBwfP%2FnHYKeIjs%2FvxA6dRZhcEOB078qXaNH2HAdve5IprB2ZuiVmj%2FRDZzNLXQJ9gcoxAdwhC8cLU%2Be1hyOzzQU6OCCWRx82ywF%2FSkyGJ0FcZ1W07hPrrMqAY8A99ckfs%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9ykrLnQYQ I have one of the Repro Lockheed type Servo's fitted on my current car and it's been fine so far. Regards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 What do you need a servo for? Weak legs? Power steering next Weak arms? it is all part of the 'experience ' of a classic !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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