Herald gearbox required

[BeerBellyBaz]

Hi there,

 

Apologies if this isn't the correct forum to post this request but, does anyone have an aluminium bell housing for a Herald 'box that they'd like to get rid of?

 

If not, can anyone advise which other Triumph models might've had a compatible one fitted?

 

Many thanks in advance,

Barry

[Pete Lewis]

canley sell them

 

Pete

[thescrapman]

BArry

 

There are a few versions of the Alloy Bell housing, from an almost smooth case, to an Alloy version of the fully ribbed cast iron one. They were just fitted to the first few years of Herald orginally.

 

Canley sell a modern copy of the latter, but it is also suitable for a single rail gearbox.

 

Be careful of people confusing a Vitesse/GT6 one for a Herald/Spitfire one. They are very cheap!

 

The early almost smooth one and the medium ribbed ones are prone to cracking.

 

All versions can be expensive, £100+

 

For the true "enthusiast", you can get an all alloy bell housing and casing combined, is 3-synchro only, and can be fitted with a Spitfire OD mainshaft, to allow a D-type on the back. 

 

They are very light, and very expensive, for racers only really.

 

Cheers

 

Colin

[BeerBellyBaz]

Thanks for the prompt replies gents,

 

Canley are out of stock at the mo' and (to be honest) I'm not mad about the idea of paying £300(ish) if I can help it.

 

Hopefully someone's got one stuffed under a sheet in their garage somewhere.

 

Barry

[KevinR]

Barry,

 

Quite a few people have them stashed in their garages (or lofts) but are unlikely to want to part with them unless there is a significant quantity of beer tokens involved.

 

They do occasionally come up on ebay - expect to pay between £100 and £150 when one does.

 

The GT6/Vitesse ones are much more common, as all GT6 and Vitesse gearboxes were fitted with them - but they don't fit a 4pot engine so they are no good for your needs.

[BeerBellyBaz]

Kevin,

 

Beer tokens (or the real thing) I can do.

 

I'm in the final stages of organising the Caterham Beer Festival (21st/22nd Nov) so I'm awash with the stuff!

 

Over 4000 pints coming in next week.

 

Regards

[rlubikey]

For the true "enthusiast", you can get an all alloy bell housing and casing combined, is 3-synchro only, and can be fitted with a Spitfire OD mainshaft, to allow a D-type on the back. 

 

They are very light, and very expensive, for racers only really.

Look for Standard 8, Standard 10 and ... Standard Atlas. You'll probably have to change the top plate for a remote one (the rearward extension) - off your old gearbox for example. Can't say how strong they are, but the engines of the time only made about 35bhp!

 

Richard

 

PS: No, mine's not for sale I'm afraid!

[BeerBellyBaz]

Thanks for the info Richard,

 

But saying you've got one that's not for sale is just plain mean ;-)

 

Are you sure....?

 

Regards,

Barry

[rlubikey]

Well, it's in the van!

[Chris59]

Using the "search" faciilities, I've found this subject, who bring an answer to my question : from which model of early Standard/Triumph could be coming the all alloy gearbox I've in my sheds.

Thanks !

 

[Pete Lewis]

To search archives or grey matter you need to get the stamped number prefrix off the case top left face

Pete

 

[Chris59]

Hi Pete, thanks for this, I'll have a closer look asap.

[NonMember]

Or post a photo, because sometimes the appearance is a give-away. But the number is better if it's available.

[Pete Lewis]

+Especially a pic of the gear change remote 

Pete

[Chris59]

No gear change remote on this 'box unfortunatly Pete : the stamped number is "G", followed by a  number, please see the pictures.

[NonMember]

Gearbox number with just a G prefix would be a 948 Herald, apparently. The photo looks about the right shape for a small car (Standard 8/10, Herald, etc.) box but appears to be an integral bell housing. That fits the earlier description by Colin, which Richard said was Standard 8 / 10 / Atlas.

[Pete Lewis]

Agree  G   =948   pretty standard early 3 rail 3 sync 

The top cover takes the normal remote for the small chassis cars

Think Standard 8 didnt have a remote, just a direct long gear stick 

The hole by the slave , wasnt that for a return sprung pushrod with external spring and a setting for throw out free play

Also a tie rod to hold unit from shifting forward on the mounts

[Chris59]

52 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said:

The hole by the slave , wasnt that for a return sprung pushrod with external spring and a setting for throw out free play

Also a tie rod to hold unit from shifting forward on the mounts

Yes it is, I've got all the related parts (spring, bracket, rods...).

 

@NonMember, yes, the bell housing is integrated, as is the slave cylinder fitting.