HWADD Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Hi everybody!! I'm Hugh Waddell from Newcastle Upon Tyne and I have recently taken delivery of my beloved tr7 which I have wanted for years after years spent drooling over the photos of them!!!But the head gasket went only couple weeks after I bought it so I sent to a garage in eastern Newcastle but they're really struggling to get the (head)bolts off!!!! I dunno if anybody can offer any suggestions here?!!! HUGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Head studs on the TR7 (and Dolomite and Stag) are renowned for being a b&*^& to shift. They may need to be soaked in plusgas (or some other magic gunk) for a week. Then using the right stud extractor helps. But that's about as far as I can help because the one time I needed to remove a head from a Triumph slant engine the studs all came out really easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 I couldn't get my GT6 head off to sort the gasket so the studs had to come out. Tried Plusgas, didn't help. Tried double nutting, where you wind two nuts against each other, the more you turn the tighter they get, but they burst! Even Pete Lewis and his "Never been known to fail" impact driver couldn't shift them. In the end with the impact driver bit on a 3 foot breaker bar and the the two of us heaving and puffing on the other end we did it. This of course buggers the stud threads and your garage may not want to risk that, but tell them you want new studs and then knowing they can break the old ones I'm sure they'll get them out. They don't cost much and it's a good idea to change them anyway. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Welcome Hugh, Heat and oil/plusgas. Other than that it's a specialist like S & S Preparations or Robsport. An aluminium head and steel studs are the problem. I also own a TR7 and find them great cars. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 One of these and 3ft breaker was the ultimate stud shifter +Doug https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/tool-connection-tc3986-impact-stud-extractor/ Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 The problem with the TR7 is that the head is at an angle, so you can't pull it off with a chain hoist (unless you roll the car sideways) and furthermore they're very susceptible to damage, being alloy, so that anything you use to try to pry the block and head apart will mark the head. I'm still working on mine; bought last August to replace the GT6 while it was off-road, it's now well off-road itself, the subframe and most of the suspension having turned out to be rotten... but I chickened out of removing the head, and just cleaned the engine up and replaced all the seals I could. As Dave says, talk to Wayne at Robsport (I have him plagued with e-mails and phone calls, and he's got a great range of parts for the TR7) or Steve at S&S Preparations and they'll give you some good tips on head removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 I recently had to do this on my TR7 engined Toledo. There are a few problems. First is the studs are at an angle, making life hared than it should be. Add to that the alloy head. There is a row of short bolts on the exhaust side. If they work come out you have serious problems. The other row is studs. The nuts should come off easily, and the studs usefully (not really( have screwdriver slots in them. God luck with that! I borrowed a head puller. Some specialists have them, and they drag the head up the studs. As I had bothered to go get it, I didn't try the usual things first. However, the recurring tip was to run the engine until hot, so a long time with the fan cutting in/out. And shut off and immediately head nuts off and a stud extractor will have its best chance at doing its job. Once they start to move worry about draining water and so on, getting them moving is essentially a win. Best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWADD Posted February 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 Hi folks!! The people at the garage have taken the engine out and sent it up to a machine shop in Blyth Northumberland to try a get the bolts removed!!!I don't know if this is a bit drastic and it'll probably send labour charges through the roof!! But it might get the bolts out. One of my friends said they should try and drill the bolts out?!!!! HUGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, HWADD said: Hi folks!! The people at the garage have taken the engine out and sent it up to a machine shop in Blyth Northumberland to try a get the bolts removed!!!I don't know if this is a bit drastic and it'll probably send labour charges through the roof!! But it might get the bolts out. One of my friends said they should try and drill the bolts out?!!!! HUGH If all else fails, no problem. I'm sure they know the procedure so as not to enlarge the stud holes in the alloy. You're now a lucky man in that you've had it done, so you shouldn't have head problems for ages to come. Hopefully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWADD Posted February 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 Yep hopefully!!!! HUGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWADD Posted February 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 Folks, How do you sign up for the shop account I’ve tried many things but I’ve had no success!!And it’s driving me mad!!lol HUGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilF Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 Hugh, Ring Angie at Headquarters and she will sort you out. NeilF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWADD Posted February 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 KK HUGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 Hugh, Yes ask ange, she has "special deals" for selected young men. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Twitchen Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 And if you are very polite the not so young! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 are you a club member ,, ie paid up and have a membership card otherwise you wont get club prices as you need to log on with member number and seperate password ie. forum members are not always club members if thats a reason amd log in is very seperate actions pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWADD Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Hi folks!! They've managed to drill out the bolts but have heard no new news since. I think they're close to putting the engine back in!!! HUGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu1ckn1ck Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Good luck, I hope that no news is good news. 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Sound like good new for the coming Summer. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWADD Posted March 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Yep hopefully!! HUGH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWADD Posted March 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 But folks is a bit fishy that the head gasket went so early into my own ownership??! HUGH (I bought it from ss preparations btw!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 They can go at any time. So unlikely ss were trying it on and bodging. Did you ask them to look at it? Or speak to them? They may have been a better option, and probably have a head puller.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 A lot depends on your driving style; it's not the first time I've seen a car change hands, and all sorts of seals and things fail within weeks, and all just due to a different style of driving in its' new home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWADD Posted March 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 11/03/2019 at 11:09, clive said: They can go at any time. So unlikely ss were trying it on and bodging. Did you ask them to look at it? Or speak to them? They may have been a better option, and probably have a head puller.... I emailed Steve but he hasn't replied!! Do you think that was wrong thing to do?!! HUGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 Nope, but a bit late. You should have contacted them first, especially if a recent purchase and covered by warranty. A phone call often seems the best way of contacting a lot of the triumph fraternity. Of course is they won't be able to help at all. But in the first place they are one of the tr7 specialists, and would be able to get the head off without having to use another company, keeping costs far more reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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