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GT6 MK3 Late Brake calipers


Alex Lowe

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Hi all im sure this has been asked before but how do I tell whether i have imperial or metric calipers fitted i have a late Mk3 1974 registered car which I believe has type 16PB fitted 

Also where is a good supplier for replacement as mine are rusted stuck 

 

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The Rimmers site says the metric type were fitted from chassis numbers KE12390 and KF12391. Of course yours could have been changed but I believe the bleed nipples are different with the metric type logically needing a metric spanner so the usual 7/16" spanner doesnt fit.

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One of the differences is the diameter of the mounting holes.

The Metric calipers require a stepped shank bolt, part number 158713, where the Imperial calipers require a straight shank bolt, part number 132439.  If you remove the bolt and it has a stepped shank then you have Metric calipers.  If the bolt has a straight shank (and is not a loose fit in the caliper body) then you have an imperial caliper.

The bolts to mount the Metric calipers are about 3 times the price of the ones for the imperial calipers, and yes, I've seen cheapskates use straight shank bolts on Metric calipers - the effect on braking is "interesting."

Also, the threads for the pipe fittings are Metric Or Imperial - and it is very easy to fit the wrong thread type and get a serious leak !

Just because the chassis number says the calipers are Metric or Imperial does not mean they actually are - never underestimate the ingenuity of a previous owner.

With the correct fittings 16P, 16PB(I) and 16PB(M) calipers will fit - even mix and match on different sides of the car.   

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1 minute ago, KevinR said:

One of the differences is the diameter of the mounting holes.

The Metric calipers require a stepped shank bolt, part number 158713, where the Imperial calipers require a straight shank bolt, part number 132439.  If you remove the bolt and it has a stepped shank then you have Metric calipers.  If the bolt has a straight shank (and is not a loose fit in the caliper body) then you have an imperial caliper.

Another excellent piece of info for me to salt away for future use!

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Spacing is the same across all the 16 series callipers. As Kevin points out, the differences are holes and threads...

I would not trust pad pin size, somebody could drill a metric calliper to accept the earlier pin. 

Worth sending the callipers away to get them reconditioned. Much better than the new ones on the market (Nick has done a comprehensive write up of the problems with the brand new callipers)

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The GT6 caliper (all types) has a 3 1/2" bold spacing.

The M16 calipers fitted to the late Ford Cortina GT had a 3 1/4" bolt spacing.

The bolt spacing on the Spitfire and Herald is 3 1/4" for the type 14 and type 12 calipers.

Therefore it should be possible to fit M16 calipers onto a Spitfire or Herald - with an appropriate modification to get the disc offset and thickness correct.

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As I said,  never underestimate the ingenuity of a previous owner.

Not strictly necessary to revert to the "correct" calipers, all 3 types are effective as each other - but the dust sealing of the 16P pistons is not as good as the 16PB.

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