watsona6 Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Hi. I’m new here. Looking at buying a Spit maybe tomorrow - but; 1 - it’s MOT’d (passed yesterday). MOT info has colour down correct (red) but tax info has colour down as brown. Assume tax info is right and the seller hasn’t told me of the colour change? 2 - Tax status seems to be ‘SORN’ yet he’s driven it to the MOT station and round his village last week. If I buy the car can I drive it home (obviously with insurance)? thanks in advance. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 As a new owner you need to tax it even if its free as historic ie pre 1979 Can be done from sorn or expired at a post office with a form https://www.gov.uk/car-tax-disc-without-v11-reminder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Cheers Pete. I think it’s not exempt until next year (1979) so will need to tax it. Can do it online I understand. What are the views on colour changed cars? Ok if done well? Seems the DVLA don’t know otherwise wouldn’t come up as the ‘old’ colour when checking the tax info (guess MOT has it recorded as the ‘new’ colour as they physically see it? cheers. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishmosh Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Colour change is an easy amendment. But clarification with seller is a must. It’s a common and easy item to sort Ved. Same as any car. Simply apply on line and drive away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Cheers. For some reason the colour change un nerves me! Guess he could have told me (I found out after checking tax and MOT online). Perhaps he forgot, didn’t appear in his description though. Will certainly discuss with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 If youre happy with the car get the colour corrected on the new v5c. Many cars have colour changes in previous ownerships, its a down to preference , if originality doesnt matter its fine Have look in hidden areas see if the orig still shows to back up the idea its been changed I guess red it better then Brown , yes change the V5 easy if the Mot is wrong thats more ofna hassle amd less easy They had my Vit6 MOT wrong colour and even a wrong reg, took a lot of correspondence to get it corrected as the computor recorded are Not easy to get corrected ....like its my fault the car doesnt match the duff data they input Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Cheers. I’ll do that. Having to drive quite some distance to see/buy this and going without my mechanic (due to the distance really). I’m assured there is zero rust and dents and there is a list (with receipts) of engine work that’s been completed. It went through an MOT on Thursday with two advisory’s (scored rim and missing battery clamp) so I think it’s a sound car but will try my best to inspect it. Any specific pointers? I suspect that is been stored for a short while as it’s currently SORN which is slightly off putting along with this colour business. Only other points to note (so far) is a possible diff issue when you come off the gas (but fine when back on) and the choke won’t stay out (read about some specialist fixes on here - using a clothes peg!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Have a serious look around the cills , notorious for bodged over skinned and affecting door shut gaps What does the diff overun problem produce, Knocking is more likely drive shaft UJs Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 I think he said a kind of drop off in power rather than a knock. Guessing something like that wouldn’t be picked up on the MOT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Personally I wouldn’t buy a classic unless I could inspect the underside . Arrange for a local garage to inspect for you and take somebody along who understands our cars . Where are you based ? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Lancashire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, watsona6 said: Cheers. For some reason the colour change un nerves me! It all depends on how - and why - it's been done. Peel back door rubbers, or look behind trims, or under the carpet. If it's been simply a blow-over respray on the cheap, was it to hide defects? I can understand owners wanting a shiny red car instead of a more unusual brown colour but it needs to have been done properly and for the right reasons, or problems will soon work their way through it. An MOT only tells you it's roadworthy, not that it's worth anything and certainly not that it's been maintained correctly. You'll only know when you see it. The phrase 'in good condition for age' covers a lot of sins... back in 2015 I went to look at a car that the seller's description claimed: no scratches or dents anywhere on the car. It was a mass of marks, dents and scuffs and the power steering failed on the test drive. The seller first tried to tell me the marks would polish out, and then admitted if he'd listed them in the ad, no-one would have come near it... plus: it had just passed MOT two weeks before. It may turn out to be a good car, but keep your eyes open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Cheers. Hate this kind of stuff. Guess better to be negative than go in all rosey. I’ll happily drive the 200 miles home without a car if I don’t feel comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Have a look at my TR7 restoration on the 'My Restoration' section and you'll have some idea of what happens when you buy a car sight unseen, going only by the vendor's description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 🙈 will do. I’ll be trying my best to inspect it with a rather untrained eye. I’m not 100% daft though - we will see! Famous last words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Check out https://www.tssc.org.uk/tssc/uploaded_files/Spitfire BUYERS GUIDE.pdf Check out the cars on the TSSC site , join the club , go to the meets and within 6 months you should find the car which meets your needs Paul buy with knowledge not emotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 A new MOT is ZERO guarantee of anything,i could get you one by post sadly,a good inspection is a must. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Where is the car based Andy? Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Hi well a drop off in power is certainly nothing to do with the diff a flat spot in carb or timing will give a unprogressive response on opening throttles after over run and can be anything from no oil in the dashpots to ........wrecked Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, poppyman said: Where is the car based Andy? Tony. Bedford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: Hi well a drop off in power is certainly nothing to do with the diff a flat spot in carb or timing will give a unprogressive response on opening throttles after over run and can be anything from no oil in the dashpots to ........wrecked Pete To be honest I didn’t quite catch what he said/understood. Choke seemed manageable. I’ll give it a good test drive and check it out. Mechanic on standby for a call should I need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, watsona6 said: Bedford I was wondering if was around someone i know? Sorry, best of luck though. Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Isn`t Bedford where MR Lewis resides?. Edit,just seen Luton,sorry Pete. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 yes took me a while to fathom that Bedford??? is this a car i may know about watson .. drop me a mail i can check that idea out drive it to Luton and lets pick the bones out of it and put its hat on straight. you may even get a bacon buttie have dropped you a forum e mail Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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