Tom Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Hello, my Herald 1200 convertible is missing the 'male' part of the anti burst catch on the passenger side, the door appears to be a replacement as it has a different colour paint under the top coat. I'm assuming the door is from a Saloon as there are no holes for the catch on the door. My question is can the catch be retro fitted to saloon doors and if so does anyone know where one can be found? thanks, Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Yes I believe it can be fitted and they do come up on eBay from time to time but as they are not available new sell at a bit of a premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Hard to find when you want one; roughly the same type of fitting is also used on the TR7 with a slightly different reinforcing plate inside the door. Keep an eye out on eBay and the like. The 'hook' is the important part, you can always make a reinforcing plate. The photo is the TR7 on the left, and the Herald on the right with the two reinforcing plates above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 i make the hook the same part numbers but the staple is different between 7 and H/V Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Here`s one. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-vitesse-and-herald-anti-burst-catch/274362988342?hash=item3fe14ef736:g:mqAAAOSwB-heuYyN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Cheers Chaps, I've contacted the seller and bought One of the hooks and the plate. Can't believe my luck they seem as rare as hens teeth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Pete Lewis said: i make the hook the same part numbers but the staple is different between 7 and H/V Pete Yes, I mentioned that they were roughly the same but you can see the heavier build of the TR7 version; it's broader, but still fits into the Herald b-post catch. Had to run out and check... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahebron Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Remember to drink tea whilst fitting the parts, it does help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 Hello, my Herald 13/60 does not have any anti burst catch installed. I found some finally but now struggle how and where exactly to install them. Does anybody has some detail for me or a picture perhaps? Many thanks in advance! Bert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 Does your b-post have two dimples, like in the photo of my Estate? All my saloon tubs have them, the convertibles are already drilled. On the door, there's a large inward section on the closing panel: In my photo of the catches above, the larger cadmium / gold coloured one top right fits in behind this, it makes sense when you line them up inside the door skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 and to add it is most important the sprung slide wedge(shown in colins top pic) is free and moves easy and the spring returns it this stops the door lifting and allowing the cam from riding over the striker or the doors will open on cornering you can get the striker and wedge but the spring is unobtainable and if failed needs a bit of DIY to replace it Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Chaps:- can I slightly alter the convo, whilst still alluding to door catches? Can't recall if I saw the query somewhere in the Forum or on FBook; my driver door catch is shown in the photo. Someone said the 'horn' (bottom right) is sprung loaded and should move freely. Why (e.g. what does it do?), and, what if it doesn't? (Some will recall my on-going, continuous issues with doors not shutting nicely) Thanks in advance . . . 😉 Best, C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 As Pete Lewis post above. Regards Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 DON'T REMOVE IT!! Seriously, free it up by sliding back and forth with copious quantities of WD40 or any suitable lubricant, but don't pull it all the way out. This will stretch the spring and it will never seat properly again. You can unhook the spring, but it's a faff to get it reconnected again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 OK chaps! Thanks. Well, certainly mine seems solid, in the position as shown. I didn't understand Peye's description of its operation - I'd have to have door appatatus and the catch off the car and offer them up together as if in ooeratiin (off car in other words!). If remove the body catch, will I lose the blind captive plate behind (always a worry with me - same with the forward door hinges; I'm always tempted to try & remove whatever, but leaving a nut or screw in place in one of the receiving threads . . . ) And yes, I have had the door fling itself open. Quite scary . . Thanks again, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Thanks for the advice, Colin. It's just supposed to slide horizontally in & out? Will it help to ease the catch a little bit loose?? Cheers, C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Sorry bout typos. Typing too quickly & fat fingers. Extra Q:- is what you can see in my picture the thing 'in', or 'out'?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 when you open the door the wedge is sprung to slide outwards when you close the door the plate on the door pushes the wedge inwards and this takes up any clearance between the two parts of the latch, stops any door lifting its a small bit that does an awful lot . Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Thanks, Pete. I understand that description better. Now to ease it all off. Thanks a lot, Chaps. Best, Colin. PS still seeking someone with working expertise to work on chassis, body-on. Still no luck here in South East . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 My synopsis:- so, that little part is nothing more than an up-down wedge, in effect? Just thinking of the door catch profile, too . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Colin said: If remove the body catch, will I lose the blind captive plate behind No, it's caged so can't go to far. Here's one that I repaired to destruction a few years back; as Gandalf said: "he who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom". I think even Google Maps couldn't get me back by now. You need to unhook the spring before sliding it out, if you can, and on replacement you need to feed the spring along the inside, and hook it on at the end of the wedge again. The spring on this one was too stretched to have any useful tension afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Hook the spring on the main body of the catch then pass a piece of doubled button thread through the wedge, hook it on the spring then slide the wedge along the spring and thread to hook it on the wedge. Regards Paul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Hey chaps - Colin, Paul et al; brilliant, thanks. Colin, that photo tellsme pretty much exactly what it's all about now. And I know exactly what you mean about dismantling to gain understanding! So conventional wisdom is currently saying don't remove the catch - guessing that's the point at which you can lose the spring's connected integrity - so I think my first gambit will be loosening it off in situ.. Many thanks for all your collective assistance (especially the visual, Colin). Best, C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 And it's basically a wedge, then . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 11, 2023 Report Share Posted June 11, 2023 like anything on a car old or new a oil can on anything that moves works wonders very few bother to lube all the small parts and wonder why they fail come on its easy get a pump can and squirt every thing that moves every few months . only takes 5 minutes Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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