Colin Lindsay Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 I suppose we should start a 'Things you've always meant to ask or wanted to know' part of the forum, but on working on my 1200 bulkhead there are two metal clips above the bellhousing that don't seem to do anything - see photo; I've added black plastic covers to make them stand out more, just below the heater box. Neither the loom not brake pipes route anywhere near these on any of my Heralds and I've just spent a half hour perusing photos, and none of the Heralds in those seem to have any use for them. Anyone use them or know what they're actually for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Clutch pipe? Or maybe something Vitesse related and never used on a Herald? (Vitesse starter wiring?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Is this a 1200? It has a clip. If it's not a 1200 you've got the wrong bulkhead! It will have to come off! db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 On my Mk1 2L Vitesse wiring to and from the starter solenoid. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Hi I have the 13/60. and the same 2 clips. I had assumed they where for routing the Brake Pipe.? Shown as Y1 in the parts catalogue (P38)? However as I did not remove said pipe. (kit of Parts!) I am not positive?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted July 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, dougbgt6 said: Is this a 1200? It has a clip. If it's not a 1200 you've got the wrong bulkhead! It will have to come off! db No, that's a 13/60... and my eyes aren't good enough to spot said clips...! However: it may be the case that early cars routed the brake pipe from the master cylinder across behind the heater; later ones routed it across in front of the heater? In which case they're for a later car than this should be... but they were welded on in accordance with reference photos when the bulkhead was restored and before it was painted, so I may have used a 13/60 bulkhead photo for reference rather than an early one... no worries, I can hang a spare ignition lead or fanbelt or the like from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 That pipe runs at the back of the bulkhead ledge on my Vitesse under the heater. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted July 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, 68vitesse said: That pipe runs at the back of the bulkhead ledge on my Vitesse under the heater. Regards Paul Mike Costigan's book shows four photos; 948 Herald, drum braked 1200 Herald, disc braked 13/60 Herald and Vitesse, and all have the brake pipe running behind the heater. As it's the only reference I checked, it made me believe that they were all like that - maybe some models differed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 those are harness tags , used for vitesse battery to solenoid cable not used on Herald as starter is N/s certainly not for brake pipes , as too bendy/ insecure pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Item 23 in PeteH post part number 59380 seems to be used on a lot of models, would only think it is needed if pipe comes from back of ledge. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 57 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said: No, that's a 13/60... and my eyes aren't good enough to spot said clips...! How's this Mr McGoo? db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 I've just had a look at a photo of my old Vitesse engine bay during it's restoration and the Cable from the Starter Solenoid to Battery runs that way, the brake pipe definitely runs behind the Heater box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted July 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 55 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: those are harness tags , used for vitesse battery to solenoid cable not used on Herald as starter is N/s certainly not for brake pipes , as too bendy/ insecure pete Certainly looks like clips for wiring of some kind, and they're also on my 1962 1200 convertible bulkhead so I'm happy they're meant to be on the 1967 model I'm working on at present (but not on the 948 saloon). Not that I'm really worried if they should be there or not; I'm more concerned that I've routed something in the wrong place. The Herald version of nipples, then, everyone has them whether they use them or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Since the Vitesse needs them for routing the starter / solenoid cable, because the starter is on the right on them, would the same be true of LHD Heralds, where the battery is on the right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, NonMember said: Since the Vitesse needs them for routing the starter / solenoid cable, because the starter is on the right on them, would the same be true of LHD Heralds, where the battery is on the right? Hi, Unknown, But seems logical?. However the forgoing will be useful when I get to putting the Front brake pipe back in, save me agonising over just where it should go, as that would seem to be behind the heater box. That is the problem with not having stripped the whole of the car one`s self. It had already been attacked by the time it came to me ie; "kit of parts". Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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