Paul H Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 Pretty sure I dropped a stainless washer in the clutch housing where the clutch release is . Is it safe to leave or do I have to get it out ? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 you could be fine small parts dont seem to get picked up how about drill the hole in the C hsg and screw in a magnetic drain plug ,,,,,,, but not very useful on most stainless although some are magnetic can you test on a spare waser ??? then how about a magnet on some net curtain wire dangle it through the aperture and go fishing ??? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted January 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 Just now, Pete Lewis said: you could be fine small parts dont seem to get picked up how about drill the hole in the C hsg and screw in a magnetic drain plug ,,,,,,, but not very useful on most stainless although some are magnetic can you test on a spare waser ??? then how about a magnet on some net curtain wire dangle it through the aperture and go fishing ??? Pete Hi Pete the other washer was stainless and not picked up by the magnet , I was removing the heater diverter. The annoying thing is I’ve done it before when changing the clutch slave and the magnet worked . Is it best to remove the box ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigolf Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 Did exactly the same on my Vit years ago. It would probably have been ok left in situ, but I could'nt stop fretting about what if... Being a steel washer I managed to drag it with a strong magnet up the side of the alloy bell housing and retreived it. As Pete says, if stainless, magnet prob won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 i guess you could pull it part off and fiddle the offending washer out the gap saves removing completely make a gap while is still sits on the studs and go fishing with a bit of wire might save some toil might even have enough telescope travel to same dropping the prop ????? let us know Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted January 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: i guess you could pull it part off and fiddle the offending washer out the gap saves removing completely make a gap while is still sits on the studs and go fishing with a bit of wire might save some toil might even have enough telescope travel to same dropping the prop ????? let us know Pete Thanks Pete . Will remove the washer one way or the other Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted January 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 I think I’ve found the washer lodged in the clutch housing . Used my cheapie draper endoscope . Do you agree Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 that looks like a clutch disc hub damper spring Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMi Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 I agree with Pete that looks like a spring on the clutch plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 Yes you could try turning the engine a little to see if another part of the clutch looks the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagger Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 f you have a powerful vacuum cleaner, attach a small tube to it and tape it so there are no leaks. Put some mesh in the tube so it cannot get into the bag. (If here is a filter it will catch it). Insert it whilst running. You could just be lucky an suck it out. I used to have 'Vacuum tweezers' for picking up small parts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 Is it a thin washer? Small or a penny type? And is teh inside of the bellhousing a bit oily? If so I would expect the washer to just stick to the bellhousing. There is surpringingly little clearance between teh flywheel and bellhousing, but if the flywheel turns ok I wouldn't worry too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 Looking at that photo I think its all been apart recently and the inside of the bell housing has been polished😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 why not get your hole saw and makea big hole in the bottom of the hsg. IE open up the dribble hole to 2" it may let it escape give it a wash with thinners/brake cleaner etc. from the top apperture it wont be too oily as we have only recently rebuilt the gearbox Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted January 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: why not get your hole saw and makea big hole in the bottom of the hsg. IE open up the dribble hole to 2" it may let it escape give it a wash with thinners/brake cleaner etc. from the top apperture it wont be too oily as we have only recently rebuilt the gearbox Pete Hi Pete , thanks for advice . The stainless washer has some magnetism after testing the other washer . I’ve taken a “super magnet” from my Milwaukee LED torch and glued it to the end of my magnetic wand and plan to test today . Now I know the camera picked up a clutch spring I will be exploring further to try and locate Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 good luck ....when the magnet drops of as its got stuck ....happy new year comes to mind Ha ! many of us have been in this situation youre not alone that aperture on the 6 pots is a magnet for directing the "dont drop it " into into a dark place Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted January 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 No luck with the magnet - too powerful . Camera didn’t show anything . Before I start pulling the box what could happen if I leave the washer in place Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foshi Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 properly nothing i have pulled a lot of boxes in my time found all sorts, nuts washers in the bellhousing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigolf Posted January 2, 2023 Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 If you've got a super strong magnet,try getting as close as you can to bellhousing base- chances are its sitting at the bottom already. Drag your magnet slowly around the outside of b/housing. Listen very carefully. If you're lucky, you might hear a 'click' as the washer is attacted to the magnet thro the alloy. If so slowly 'drag' the magnet back up to the hole in the housing. Its worth a try. Gav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted January 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, trigolf said: If you've got a super strong magnet,try getting as close as you can to bellhousing base- chances are its sitting at the bottom already. Drag your magnet slowly around the outside of b/housing. Listen very carefully. If you're lucky, you might hear a 'click' as the washer is attacted to the magnet thro the alloy. If so slowly 'drag' the magnet back up to the hole in the housing. Its worth a try. Gav Thanks Gav , certainly worth a try as I do have a powerful magnet though the washer is stainless with some magnetism Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahebron Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Did you get it out? I shattered a gearbox and diff on Peugeot 405 after I lost a 11mm socket into the bellhousing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted February 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 44 minutes ago, ahebron said: Did you get it out? I shattered a gearbox and diff on Peugeot 405 after I lost a 11mm socket into the bellhousing No all attempts failed . Decided to leave . It’s a very light ( cheapo ) washer and hopefully it’s stuck on the oily bellhousing surface somewhere . I will continue to live dangerously 😱 Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 the worst thing is living with the fact you just lost a washer Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puglet1 Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 Although I’d be extremely annoyed with myself for dropping it in there, I don’t think it will do any harm. My logic is based upon two of the laws of physics. 1 being centrifugal force, so it’s likely to get thrown away from the clutch assembly. 2 being gravity so after it’s ejected out towards the bell housing it’s likely to drop to the bottom of it. If by any chance it was able to get lodged between the flywheel ring gear and the bell housing I reckon it would last about a millisecond. I personally wouldn’t worry too much about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 26, 2023 Report Share Posted February 26, 2023 get a hole saw in the bottom of the C hsg. and go fishing Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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