Colin Lindsay Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 You left out the one to record it on his phone and post it on social media... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: es done it from under a spitfire once with a socket and extn and knuckle on the bleeder , quirt it on the floor wash off with water still needs a muppet on the pedal & nip before each back stroke so you need rent a crowd and a jack and stand under the side youre working unless youre skinny one down under one watchng the reservoir one pumping simpulze !!! Pete Tried that, lot easier in the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted March 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Mathew - Planning to do that the next time the tunnel is off (see previous post) Pete - Will give it a go. May set up in the garage with a layer is newspaper on the floor. I REALLY don't want to strip out the interior at this point, as per previous post which should also include have gear stick hole welded and redrilled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 46 minutes ago, Badwolf said: Mathew - Planning to do that the next time the tunnel is off (see previous post) Pete - Will give it a go. May set up in the garage with a layer is newspaper on the floor. I REALLY don't want to strip out the interior at this point, as per previous post which should also include have gear stick hole welded and redrilled You can lift up the carpit up at the side , cut the hole and plate after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 A ex-friend has a Spit 1500 who had the interior retrimmed locally several years ago it looked good, but the trimmer cut roll carpet and glued it down/in so there's little triangulated fillets everywhere and trying to get the tunnel out was a PITA having to remove small make up pieces of glued carpet! Glued fitted carpet ain't a good idea in a convertible! I did advise him before he had it done to get a molded set from Newton, but he's a tight A**E and wouldn't pay the shipping, well the interior ain't as good as it was, as the glued bits didn't go back as easy! Pete the adjustable push rod and threaded yoke I have one somewhere is a good idea I picked mine up in a job lot of spares, but the quick release yoke option as shown in your "Merlin Motorsports" website intrigues me do you know how it connect/lock and what mod has to be made to the push rod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 i think there is a clip fits over the rounded part bit like some throttle rods have but on a safer scale of things never used one Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamB Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 After I had replaced the clutch slave cylinder on my Spitfire, I opened the bleed screw (must be at the top of the cylinder) and the fluid just flowed out as the reservoir is the highest point on a straight through hydraulic circuit. Closed the screw after a few seconds and the clutch pedal worked perfectly. No need for a second person to pump the pedal. Or was I just lucky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Ha thats the........... Gravity .............of the situation Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted March 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Graham - Thanks but it still involves either grubbing around underneath or stripping out the interior stuff as I'm not happy about hacking into the tunnel cover to make an access panel while it's still in place. I have always planned to try to refill by filling the cylinder until the fluid comes out of the connection hole and then reconnect the pipe which was plugged with a grease nipple cover when it was removed. Worth a shot as it's the clutch but wouldn't try it with the brakes. I have little doubt that it won't work but I have rent a crowd on standby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, GrahamB said: After I had replaced the clutch slave cylinder on my Spitfire, I opened the bleed screw (must be at the top of the cylinder) and the fluid just flowed out as the reservoir is the highest point on a straight through hydraulic circuit. Closed the screw after a few seconds and the clutch pedal worked perfectly. No need for a second person to pump the pedal. Or was I just lucky? That's how the pressurised brake bleeders work; they just assist gravity a bit with no need for pumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted March 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Everything is now back together but waiting for a test to see if a bleed is needed. It has taken me 3 days to do a half hour job. Distractions. I need to get the car outside to clean up the brake fluid off the clutch pedal and footwell paint. I don't think that using panel wipe in the footwell in an enclosed garage would be too good for the health. So with good weather forecast it can wait. At least if I do have to go underneath I will have more wriggle room. Of course if the clutch won't engage it will be a push job and if it does.. job done. I intend to panel wipe over the paintwork in the footwell and then washed over with soapy water and dry. The carpet will get wiped over with detergent then power-washed. If anyone has any other good alternatives to neutralising DOT5 please let me know. I know it's not the 'purist' thing to do but I slit the rubber boot to fit it. I was amazed how easily it went on and located around the hole. Why have I struggled so much when a sharp knife and a tie wrap was all that I needed. Has anyone else done it this way... go on own up...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Ooooh Tee shirt time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 Been playing with mine (Clutch Master cyl) for the last 2 days, It was full of dried C88p. In the end I moved it with boiling water and Dishwasher tablets. Re asembled and tested overnight in a vice.👍 The next move was the weld up the "oval" hole in the brake pedal and ream it to 8.5mm. Nearly finished Turning a "bespoke" clevis pin!. The Pivot pin was seized solid in the Pedal, succumed to Plus Gas overnight and a drive via the vice and 2 sockets, a quick polish in the lathe👍, restored propper motion. Got to tackle the Brake Pedal/Master-cyl Next. Pete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted March 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 PeteH. I envy your skill and facilities. I have a garage full of stuff, no space, to much to do and no enthusiasm to do it with!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 stiff pedal bushes will play havoc with the ability to recuperate the cylinder they are often the root cause of a low pedal wont be the first time they are so seized the D shaped location hole in the pedal bracket gets rounded off I have a feeling we added a greaser but sold her so it never got used Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Badwolf said: PeteH. I envy your skill and facilities. I have a garage full of stuff, no space, to much to do and no enthusiasm to do it with!! Thank`s. The lathe, Is a 1944 Drumond, which was consigned to the skip at a Dairy in Somerset 30 years ago before I rescued it. It really needs a thorough overhaul itself, but for the "little" jobs it works. One day I may just refurbish it properly. Got to tackle the Brake set-up next!. The skill set. Is the result of a 5 Year aprenticeship as a Millwright. We got to work with just about everything. Good grounding for a career at a Marine engineer. But more pressing, is the issue of the cill alignment. The cause of much head scratching at the moment. And I am currently "employed" as SWMBO`s "head gardener". Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Got to spend the afternoon in the garage this afternoon but instead of doing anything constructive I ended up mopping up the brake fluid in the drivers footwell. While I had the chance I had a look over the engine to check fluid levels and stuff. Pete, you should be proud of me on the one hand...topped up the dash pots with best new, clean engine oil. The bad news are the next two questions: 1. Where is the best place to get HS2 carb float chamber gaskets or is fleabay as good as anywhere for price and speed? 2. There was no petrol in the float chambers (that's how I found that the gaskets were duff) or the 'see through' petrol filter. How many pumps on the petrol pump lever should it need before petrol shows in the filter? I must have pumped about 20 times but nothing has come through yet, and yes, there is fuel in the tank according to the gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, Badwolf said: I must have pumped about 20 times but nothing has come through yet, and yes, there is fuel in the tank according to the gauge. Are you pumping, or just moving the lever? The lever will move, you think it's pumping, but it's only taking up the slack on the spring. If you give it a good pump towards the end of the travel you can actually feel the extra little movement that tells you it's now working the diaphragm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 we're all proud of you ha !! 20 pumps well thats too many but if the pump is on the peak of the cam the prime lever wont do very much might pay to turn the engine to get a useable stroke gaskets really you can get from anywhere burlen are main suppliers but they are listed by just about everyone while the tops off do have a look for rubber slivers sitting in the back of the needle valve . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Colin - Short answer is, I don't know. I assume that it's up and down..there is a little play side to side. Off out to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Pete - Thanks. No rubber slivers. That's why I don't want to take off the filter at the moment. Will check for both your suggestions and Colin's and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted April 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 First the good news, I have found a pair of carb gaskets and fitted them after checking the float chambers for slivers and topping up with fuel. Now the bad. Still no joy with the pump even after turning over the engine quickly. Must stress that I haven't tried since fitting the new gaskets, but no fuel. Eventually took off the old fuel filter and blew through it. No problem but it was dry and grubby looking so just to be on the safe side, fitted a new one. That's how I found the gaskets. Still no joy with the pump but will try again now the carbs are primed. I will, without doubt now have slivers in the system. If anyone has any other ideas please let me know. By the way, there is fuel coming through the main pipe from the tank, but not as much as I expected, just a dribble when I took off the old filter and lowered the pipe. Before you ask, the pipe was so called injection fuel pipe that I got from my local accessory shop (not H/fords). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 have you blown the tank to pump feed ??? i would take the pump off and operate the cam lever it should make a defined suck and blow form the pipe ports make sure the pump lever is on the outside of the cam not hooked under the cam Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted April 8, 2021 Report Share Posted April 8, 2021 Does it need priming? Is there an air leak prior to the pump, so it sucks air instead of the fuel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted April 9, 2021 Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 I gave up with the engine mech pump for the same reason and fitted an electricFacet Cube pump in the boot with a drowned suction from the bottom of the Vitesse tank pumps ain’t good suckers. Facet say no more than 13 in of suction head and there dead on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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