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Justin Knight

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Where would you find out if your car needs an MOT? Mines old enough but had an engine swap years ago. I wanted to test drive it for a day or two to shake down the mechanicals before I do the niceties that get you through a test.  The V5 says 'Historic Vehicle'. 

My insurance company already knows about the mod so I'm not trying to deceive anyone. 

 

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Well, technically from the 20th, yours will be flagged as MOT exempt - only if you tell them its substantially modified when its next due for tax will the MOT exemption be lost.

Depends what engine you've put in and when though as to whether its substantially modified or not.

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6 hours ago, Anglefire said:

Well, technically from the 20th, yours will be flagged as MOT exempt - only if you tell them its substantially modified when its next due for tax will the MOT exemption be lost.

Depends what engine you've put in and when though as to whether its substantially modified or not.

It's a 2.5 from a TR5. Probably done in the 90s but I've no real proof. 

It's had loads of MOTs in this configuration so the ministry are clearly happy about the safety side. You'd think that if a mod had been MOTed before it wouldn't need to be done again. 

The V5 shows the correct engine size (2.5) ditto insurance so as far as I'm concern they already know. 

I'll have to read those threads again. 

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Hi Justin. While we all know the Stag was designed with the straight 6 in mind, it was never produced as such by Triumph. However, because of the reliability problems with the (potentially excellent) Triumph V8, exasperated owners did engine swaps and both the Rover V8 and Triumph 6 were installed. What you need to do is find documentary evidence that owners were putting in the Triumph 6 within 10 years of the end of Stag production. I think just one example is sufficient - what do others think? Once you have that, I would have thought that you could declare "no substantial change" (well, in the engine department anyway) with a clear conscience. You should read the government guidelines and see if you agree with this train of thought - don't just take my word for it!

Cheers, Richard

PS: 100% agree with getting MOTs for our cars, even if it's not a requirement.

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On 5/17/2018 at 1:14 PM, rlubikey said:

100% agree with getting MOTs for our cars, even if it's not a requirement.

I'm always slightly surprised, given that so many people here are children of the 60s and 70s, that more people aren't more pleased to get 'the man' out of their lives in a small way.

I'm capable of knowing that my car is safe and I don't really need to pay 40 quid to watch a 20yr old to suck his teeth. Finally we aren't being nannied, if you'd like one get one and if you don't, don't. Hooray. 

Probably not a common opinion but I'm a confirmed contrarian, or a "trust you to be bloody awkward" as my missus might say. :)

"Freedom for Tooting"! 

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Maybe we are getting risk averse? 

But importantly it is down to me not having brake balance equipment, or even a lift (crawling under 18" high axe stands doesn't count!). And even though I am pretty good at knowing my car, and checking things, I realise I can and do miss things.

On the other hand, it is not "us" the responsible owners who I worry about, but those rubbing their hands in glee at the thought of not having to fix things any more.

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I have had 3 cars this year which have failed mot for rear brake problems ,

oblivious to fairly conscientious drivers having no idea the rears were  deficient

1 deatched wheel, cyl held (not) with a tywrap    1 detached linning bonding,   1  cylinder leak and soaked linings

So  brake test get a hooray from me 

Pete

 

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I’ve spoken to my local MOT place who did my Spit last year and they will give mine the once over - I don’t want a formal MOT as such - I just want a second pair of eyes over it - predominantly a brake test as that is the bit that is hard to test at home. Though my Land Rover discovery only ever had the pendulum weight thing for at least the last 3 MOT’s being 4x4 and not liking two wheel rollers. 

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I'm not sure why anyone would not have the mot done. Yes you can get a garage to sign off your car without one but then in the worst case scenario and you end up in court which document would hold more weight?

Do you actually loose anything by having an official  certificate? I'm not sure you do

Aidan 

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we seized a 4WD diff up on a Reynold boughton 50 series on our tacho rollers  this had  a permanent 4wd   transfer box 

they wanted the speed checking. didnt have a tacho , my thoughts were well if the drive is always on it should climb out the rollers with the front wheels 

nah nah,,,   either something was failed befor we got it , hence the speed reading errors,  but we went a bit red for a while 

subsequenlty proved the  centre diff had already failed      phew !!  escape  put kettle on... ecsape stage left  <<<<<<<<<

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29 minutes ago, AidanT said:

I'm not sure why anyone would not have the mot done. Yes you can get a garage to sign off your car without one but then in the worst case scenario and you end up in court which document would hold more weight?

Do you actually loose anything by having an official  certificate? I'm not sure you do

Aidan 

No you don’t particularly- but the skills are being lost on how these old cars should be checked. They are being lost as to how to maintain them and hence specialists are springing up as well as places like this forum. 

My local one is fine for general inspection- but When they did mine last year they couldn’t get the emissions right and screwed up my carbs because they only adjusted one carb. 

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1 hour ago, Anglefire said:

When they did mine last year they couldn’t get the emissions right and screwed up my carbs because they only adjusted one carb. 

When I worked for Rover in the 1990s, my boss reminisced about his Dolomite Sprint he'd had as a company car in the 1970s. He said he always instructed the BL main dealer to leave the carbs well alone because they had screwed them up by only adjusting one of them. It's not a matter of lost knowledge, it's a matter of stupidity.

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