jondhm Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Hi folks Just checking the state of the fuel hoses under the bonnet of my GT6 Mk3. Are there any fuel hoses under the car I need to look at, or is it metal pipes all the way to the fuel tank? Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Sometimes a joiner near the front outrigger, and also at the rear where it goes into the tank. Assuming there have been no repairs in the past...... But once jacked up, the pipe should be easily seen all the way. Worth doing as it takes minutes to check for any damage etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Early GT6 screw straight into the tank so a metal pipe all the way underneath; not sure if this was continued in later models, but you'll see when you get down below. Otherwise as Clive has posted, sometimes a flexible pipe at the fuel pump / front outrigger area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Ah! Ha! You've all missed the one in the passenger side rear wheel arch. I know it's there because mine leaked. 2 gallons onto the floor of my integral garage. House doors and windows open for a week, fortunately in the summer. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 That's the overflow from filler cap area so if it leaked two gallons, where's it coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Colin, On my MK3 the fuel pipe comes out the bottom off the tank, under the chassis then, in the passenger side rear wheel arch, up the side of the chassis. There is then a short rubber coupling and the pipe continues to the next rubber joint as the pipe emerges into the engine bay. It is the rear coupling that rotted away on mine and leaked the remains of the tank. Doubly annoying as I had just replaced everything else with R9. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jondhm Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Thanks, guys. This is really helpful. I have looked again at the Parts Catalogue and can see the rubber hose at the rear. The next problem will be replacing it. I think I will wait until I have the car on a 4-post lift and have someone else to help me. That way I should be able to minimise the fuel spillage (also, by making sure there isn't much fuel in the tank). John M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, dougbgt6 said: Colin, On my MK3 the fuel pipe comes out the bottom off the tank, under the chassis then, in the passenger side rear wheel arch, up the side of the chassis. There is then a short rubber coupling and the pipe continues to the next rubber joint as the pipe emerges into the engine bay. It is the rear coupling that rotted away on mine and leaked the remains of the tank. Doubly annoying as I had just replaced everything else with R9. Doug That must be a late MK3. Very late, as in: we're not making any more of these, so what do we do with all this left over fuel hose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Colin, Joking aside, there are other bits on it that make me think that's EXACTLY what happened. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I was joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Usually at the end of a production run all the left overs are used and the model badged 'special edition' as a warning that nothing in the parts catalogue for your SE model will fit. Had several of those over the years. Now my Spitfire is the same, a sort of mongrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 Rover 216 SE had electric sunroof and manual windows. It was well known within the company that SE actually stood for "Sale of Excess". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 30 years ago I bought a Maestro Mayfair. When it was delivered to the dealer it had electric windows and power steering. Not part of the spec or optional extras on that model. The BL dealer had no idea why it had the extra bits not normally available on that model. The factory had not added any extra costs for these bits. May have been for an employee who then didn't what/get the car. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I had a Maestro City, it had nothing, not even five gears. I used to call in at my local breakers and get all of the optional parts off other cars, usually for pennies, and add them. By the time I sold it, it was quite a luxury 5-speed model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, dave.vitesse said: 30 years ago I bought a Maestro Mayfair. When it was delivered to the dealer it had electric windows and power steering. Not part of the spec or optional extras on that model. There was a cautionary tale told on a quality course at Rover. At one time, the Maestro production line had a problem with paint blisters. The end of line quality inspectors had been instructed to check the paintwork carefully. They duly did so, in minute detail, and passed a Maestro City (basest of base models) as good to go, since its paint was good. They didn't even notice the VanDenPlas interior with leather seats that had been fitted in error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I guess they were focused on the job in hand or it was before lunch time. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordfunker Posted January 12, 2019 Report Share Posted January 12, 2019 I always remember reading an article by Rowan Atkinson in Car magazine back in the 90's and he always reckoned the best time to buy a model was then it was about to be replaced, for two reasons: By then they had generally worked out how to build it properly! And the manufacturer usually throws all the options at the run out cars to get rid of them! My wife bought her C3 Picasso when they were being phased out, £6k discount, and a bucket load of goodies to boot! Karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 14 hours ago, Bordfunker said: I always remember reading an article by Rowan Atkinson in Car magazine back in the 90's and he always reckoned the best time to buy a model was then it was about to be replaced, for two reasons: By then they had generally worked out how to build it properly! And the manufacturer usually throws all the options at the run out cars to get rid of them! My wife bought her C3 Picasso when they were being phased out, £6k discount, and a bucket load of goodies to boot! Karl Very true, it pays not to be a trendy. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Not wanting to spoil the flow of the Maestro conversation, my fuel line is solid from the tank to the engine bay. Enters as a short spur over the passenger side cross member where the rubber starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 13/01/2019 at 11:42, dave.vitesse said: Very true, it pays not to be a trendy. Dave Plus, if you wait about twenty years, you can buy cars for a fraction of what they cost new, so it also pays to be patient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, Adrian said: Not wanting to spoil the flow of the Maestro conversation, my fuel line is solid from the tank to the engine bay. Enters as a short spur over the passenger side cross member where the rubber starts. I'm pretty sure my GT6 is the same. The Spitfire is solid from the boot floor but that's not original - the original pipe was solid from the tank, with an olive coupling under the boot. The Vitesse has a rubber coupling in the boot (outlet from the top of the tank) but is then solid through to the engine bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Strange then that the parts catalogue shows the rubber joint. On 11/01/2019 at 18:10, jondhm said: I have looked again at the Parts Catalogue and can see the rubber hose at the rear. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jondhm Posted January 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Thanks, guys. The feedback has been really useful because it has shown me where I ought to look, and has also alerted others that there is probably a fuel hose under the car which is easily overlooked with all the focus being on the hoses under the bonnet. When the weather has warmed up a bit I'll have a good look underneath - easiest way to resolve this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 The rear hose is easy to get to, just take the wheel off and there it is. Changing it is more of an issue. By the time I changed mine I'd lost the contents of the tank but I still got a good soaking in fuel. I had several showers that day! You could put a clamp in the middle of the new section, whip the old one off and finger over the pipe. Then whip the new one in, but you're going to get wet! You could take the sender unit off the tank and obstruct the flow, but you'll need a new sender unit gasket, they never go back the same. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Stick a plastic golf tee into the pipe, it'll hold against a gentle flow of fuel. If you really need to, a cable tie around the outside keeps it in place more securely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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