iana Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Whilst working through checking things, I cross referenced the ht leads to the cylinder and the workshop manual, it looks like the leads are 1 position out but in the correct firing order - is this an issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 No thats correct 153624 anticlockwise, its only wrong if no1 is in the wrong place And it runs ,, what makes you think theres a problem ? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iana Posted May 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Because in the workshop manual it seems to show no1, 1 position back to how the cap is connected. It runs - I was checking the timing so had the manual in front of me so I checked against the book for piece of mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 As you can fit the dizzy drive gear anywhere these things dont always follow the book Providing no1 lead is where the rotor points on no1 compression stroke its fine and the leads reach all plugs ok it is not important where no1 starts from so long as you know why it is where it is Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iana Posted May 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Is there a simple way of verifying the position of number 1 lead and the rotor position? If not I’ll just accept it’s Ok. If no 1 and lead 1 are not in sequence would it run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 The WSM gives a specific position for the distributor drive gear at TDC, and the position of the leads that it shows would be correct if you align the gear like that. However, as Pete said, you can fit that drive gear in some 20 positions and it's not easy to get a particular one, so a lot of cars don't have the leads in the "book" positions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 If all out of sequence I wont run You can remove the plugs , stick thumb over no1 plug hole Turn engine slowly till you detect air passing thumb, stop. Turn slowly to align tdc timing marks Remove cap , rotor should be facing no1 lead terminal Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 Keep the Number 1 lead away from the alternator otherwise the HT will take out it's regulator. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 and Daves No1 is pretty much similar to yours Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iana Posted May 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 Thanks Dave, I'm intending to replace the HT leads - are the standard TSSC ones any good or are there better ones out there? I was going to order the ignition service kit as I want a dizzy cap / spare points / condenser / rotor arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 Daves pic looks like std tssc shop offering Going £££ mad for some silly ones makes no real difference Some aftermarket leads the seals can be hard to fit and can pop off as they squeeze back up the tapers on the cap The joys of well it looks ok but Nah. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynebaby Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 Not sure Dave's are sourced from the TSSC shop. The ones from the shop (which I use without problems) have a mixture of right angle and straight plug connectors to make sure the leads fit easily around the dizzy and avoid the alternator (they have right angle only on cylinder 1, 4 and 5) They also have a natty TSSC logo printed on the leads! Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpitFire6 Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 Hi, the orange and green HT leads shown in the previous posts; Are the green one's copper & the orange one's carbon? Cheers, Iain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iana Posted May 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 New leads fitted , but I was hoping to keep the old ones as spares, the coil to distributor has come apart at the coil end, I’ve retrieved the end, is it possible to remake the lead or am I better scrapping it and getting another spare - any suggestions where from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 You can buy rolls of cable online (eBay has loads) and just make up your own leads. As Pete says further up even on some of the expensive versions the ends will pull off when you try to remove them and will require crimped back on again. Single leads are also readily available; just measure how long you need yours to be, and buy accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iana Posted May 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 Thanks Colin, Id never considered making my own leads, but I may now have watched a Youtube infomat video - it looks fairly straightforward. Ive also had a go at repairing the lead - hopefully I will never need it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 You really need the proper crimping tooll. This guy makes them to order: https://mrretroleads.co.uk/ John (Satisfied customer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpitFire6 Posted May 14, 2019 Report Share Posted May 14, 2019 On 14/05/2019 at 16:39, JohnD said: You really need the proper crimping tooll. This guy makes them to order: https://mrretroleads.co.uk/ John (Satisfied customer) Hi John, Is this the guy that makes the similar leads to Magnecor at a much cheaper price? With any sparkplug cable, apply silicone grease to the outer inner insulation of boot & ceramic to prolong the life and aid removal. Cheers, Iain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 No idea, Iain! But grease, of any sort on an insulator is surely a bad idea? Attracts and holds conductive dirt. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, JohnD said: No idea, Iain! But grease, of any sort on an insulator is surely a bad idea? Attracts and holds conductive dirt. John In hot dusty climates yes. But in climates like the UK then dampness is a bigger problem with HT circuits than dust. Hence the use of WD40. Grease, silicon, will keep out the moisture and is a long term form of preventative maintenance. Clean it off when you clean the spark plugs and then replace with fresh grease. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 hmmmm not convinced on the grease idea whereas WD40 dries off possibly leaving an insulating coating without collecting dirt..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 3 hours ago, dave.vitesse said: In hot dusty climates yes. But in climates like the UK then dampness is a bigger problem with HT circuits than dust. Hence the use of WD40. Grease, silicon, will keep out the moisture and is a long term form of preventative maintenance. Clean it off when you clean the spark plugs and then replace with fresh grease. Dave Looked out of the window recently, Dave? Here on the Costa d'Morecambe, cloudless skies, sun's burning yer eyes out. Hot, soon dusty! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 well i used to use brylcream as a lad and now i dont need it so grease doesnt work for me WD40 well thats a good chance if its next to the deodorant ... thats risky what !!! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Twitchen Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: WD40 well thats a good chance if its next to the deodorant Probably better than PlusGas or Easy Start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 Or may be Redex? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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