Jeffds1360 Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 Driving me nuts, like someone on here! How the heck do you wedge the nut when it spins in its little cage? Any hints please, from those who have experienced this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 Try jamming it with a long screwdriver between the nut and the cage side. Make it easier with plenty of penetrating oil, but it's just going to take patience. The other option is to grind the head off the bolt and remove with the bolt shank in place, then remove that on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 Wow! That was quick. Yes, thanks Colin. Need 3 hands re the screwdriver and the wife 'hurt'her hand helping me off with the hard top. She is also huffed as her seat is uncomfortable. but I'm working on that. I'll give it a good soak and try later. Must go and read the latest news on Mark's thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 i fear it will be cut the head off and attack the remains in the kitchen !!!! so the wife can help ive blocked the area 51 nightmare multiple posts theres a problem there easy to up your post count if you persistently write to yourself Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 Uuuurgh. Doubt I can get my grinder in Need a sharp hacksaw blade then. Or a bloody sharp chisel! bugger it ( and area 51) Good point re post count. He will be blackbelt Dan whatever before you know it.... ok. Thanks guys. Might just go for a drive to settle my addled brain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 I have used various items to try and wedge the bolt so it doesn`t rotate,screwdrivers,chisels,rods etc,even tried to compress the cage a bit with a chisel. I think the original nuts were square so it can be possible to get something either side of it,(i used 4 inch nails).lots of penetrating fluid to free it up as well. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 👍 sounds like a plan. now I'm stuck on b old/italics/or underscores. ??? cannot get out of it?? or can I....yes. tap twice big learning curve (life!) thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 I had success by drilling through the cage thing into the nut and then trying to free. Plenty of oil, plusgas heat etc, it all helps. Use a drill that you class as sacrificial. Maybe for the other problem hang, drawing and quartering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 Can you reach in with the nozzle of a welder, and fix the nut in the cage? That's what Triumph should have done, the cheapskates. There are a million penetrating oils - and WD40 is NOT one of them - but I've been impressed by "Innotec DeBlock". Not cheap but most effective. And I own no shares in them! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 Please note I have not tried this, However IF you can get some access to the cage, after soaking in a decent "Release fluid". Is it worth trying to fill the cage with something like the old "Araldite". When mixed that stuff used to go like concrete in about 10min, and may prevent the nut from turning in the cage?. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 tie a chain round a lamp post and reverse at speed then everything comes off as apprentice in experimental a bent Mk4 truck needed pulling out so the foreman (who had a dislike for spotty kids) had me tie the truck to a pillar thro the headlamp hole and we ripped the whole front off happy days Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: tie a chain round a lamp post and reverse at speed I understand they have very expensive Jigs and Hydraulic rams Now-a-days in place of that?.🤣. Serious thought though, it was a well used method of making "bent" rally cars drivable, especially when the "recovery" couldn`t get at it in a forest stage. I even used it to get my sons Imp somewhere near straight after he "clipped" a roundabout near Farnborough. Some "new" suspension and steering bits and he drove it until the MOT guy failed it. (but not on the front suspension!). Did we really do stuff like that back in the dark ages?. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 you mean the bit of plywood holding the handbrake in the floor was bodge ??? pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Twitchen Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: the bit of plywood holding the handbrake in the floor was bodge ??? Initiative and artistic licence more like. Dick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 2 hours ago, PeteH said: Is it worth trying to fill the cage with something like the old "Araldite". When mixed that stuff used to go like concrete in about 10min, and may prevent the nut from turning in the cage?. Pete That's a thought. Handy for removing stuff but not sure about the replacement afterwards, although if it holds long enough to remove it should hold well enough to be refitted... and who is going to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 PeteH, that would be Araldite "Rapid". The original stuff takes hours to go off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted June 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 yes yes..... I have some J B weld. I shall mix that and squirt some in. No welding equipment available or burning gear either I'm afraid. and I'm learning to use the 'different type types' just like Mark.....but I will not shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, JohnD said: PeteH, that would be Araldite "Rapid". The original stuff takes hours to go off. I refuse to incriminate myself, But let`s just say my supplier back then was not in retail? and it came in un-branded containers marked resin and hardener? with long code numbers. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 But that's what Jeff would need if he were inclined to try that methiod - although the slow cure may produce a harder result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 my dad used to used the old araldite to mend his teeth so it was good then i find any adhesive these days is friendly but often useless pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 13 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: my dad used to used the old araldite to mend his teeth I once used it to hold a crown in place over the weekend. Tasted horrible but did the job. These days I'd worry about being poisoned but back then it was all about looks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted July 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 You lot never told me the bracket was slotted!!!! You just need one bolt out, with the other 'slack' and you can tap the overider off!! Need to make note of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 did you ask !!!!! Ha pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted July 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Pete, I've just been reading that post that wanders into 42 and ends up with 54 and lots of 9's.......... A different type of laugh and head shake that I got with zone 51 or whatever it was! You lot are nuts and I love it! Nut, bolt, screw and washers... I know that joke!! My 'new' overider does not sit as straight or proud but it has no dints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 that suggests the mount brkt has had whack at some time Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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