Paula Posted February 5 Author Report Share Posted February 5 Going back through my own comments, i've been here before. I think the chain of events was all from me doing the head gasket and not bleeding the coolant properly. Then over filling the oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 we there you go a quick Italian Tune up has solved the smoke and relief to the wallet . next time you do an oil change check whats on the dip stick add 3.5 ltrs should give you the low oil level mark, add the last 1 ltr should give you the full mark on my Vit6 the dipstick was miles out and overfilled by 2 ltrs if you used the high mark "wot you mean" it holds 6 Ltrs so a refill of 4.5 ltrs shoud not be less than the full line on the stick Pleased you have him sorted time to go for a burn up then on the growling if he had ingested a load of oil or contaminated fuel that can make em Growl a bit next time smell the smoke oil smells of oil antifreeze smells of ....antifreeze Ha ! gives a good clue where the headache is coming from Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, Paula said: OK compression test was 90 PSI almost exactly on each cylinder. Popped the cap off and hardly any wind at all coming out of it. Glad its running better. Compression reading is low but the way its balanced could mean its just your gauge - need a way to calibrate it or check with another... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 5 Author Report Share Posted February 5 I do have scuba tanks! Maybe i could check with them. Might be too much pressure though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Curiouser and curiouser! Certainly not rings, certainly not head gasket (phew!) But defo, oil smoke. Where from? As Pete has suggested carb dash pots? Else, has to be down the valve guides (check that little "filter" in the rocker cover, as he also says), or via the crank case vent system. If that pressure regulating valve between the crankcase and the carbs is supposed to prevent excess crankcase gas being drawn into them at idle when the vacuum is greatest. Has that stopped working? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 5 Author Report Share Posted February 5 I’m going for a big motorway drive tomorrow. my normal test route. Lots of traffic and a junction on the motorway. Hopefully it will all be fine. I think I over filled it with oil when I added the STP stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 I have no idea if this pertains to your issues, however there was a period where folk where adding extra lubrication to the valve train, OK, if your car has valve seals in good condition. but if not, and Triumphs don`t, more oil gets down worn guides and exits as blue smoke. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 If you didn't have the throttle wide open then the compression reading will be low. Effectively the cylinders are strangled of air unless at WOT. Good luck tomorrow, beware Greta's mob! Iain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 27 minutes ago, Iain T said: beware Greta's mob! Water cannon?. Refrigerate the water first?. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 the Vit6 has a open vented tubular crankcase vent in its fitting face to the block is a pack of perforated gauze plates its worth removing the two bolts ( down near the fuel pump) and clean the plates in case they are clogged the vent is a long bit of 1" metal pipe exits below the sump flange Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 5 Author Report Share Posted February 5 19 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: the Vit6 has a open vented tubular crankcase vent in its fitting face to the block is a pack of perforated gauze plates its worth removing the two bolts ( down near the fuel pump) and clean the plates in case they are clogged the vent is a long bit of 1" metal pipe exits below the sump flange Pete Will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 play your guitars to him and hide the scooter................he needs some TLC Ha ! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 11 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: the Vit6 has a open vented tubular crankcase vent in its fitting face to the block is a pack of perforated gauze plates its worth removing the two bolts ( down near the fuel pump) and clean the plates in case they are clogged the vent is a long bit of 1" metal pipe exits below the sump flange Pete Wot? Where? I don't recognise what you describe, Pete. Never, ever seen "a pack of perforated gauze plates" secured by "the two bolts ( down near the fuel pump)" and I've built a few 6 cylinders. Was this some very early part? But where? There is n or opening that might be sealed by two bolts next to the fuel pump! The crankcase, on every single Triumph 6 I've seen is vented via the rocker cover. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 its on most 1600 's vitesse6 item 64 1600 Engine : Canley Classics Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 There ya go!. Every day`s a school day, obviously deleted on the 2 Litre Engine. Which shows a blanking plate instead, had me going for a while but I (SWMBO) had the early 2 Litre. Not the 1600 Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 6 Author Report Share Posted February 6 It’s why you can’t put a spin on oil filter conversation kit on. The breather right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 Thanks, Pete! Never worked on a 1600, never had one in the workshop! Every day's a schoolday! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Paula said: It’s why you can’t put a spin on oil filter conversation kit on you can if you modify the tube run either with some copper plumbing or use a rubber hose pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, JohnD said: Never worked on a 1600, John they are a very revy unstressed engine MK1 has much of the same except the bore and carbs Mine would give a 2ltr a good run for the money (and surprise a few moderns ha !) Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 6 Author Report Share Posted February 6 Test drive complete. Good hour drive including traffic and motorway. I think he deserves a wash now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 a wash ......dont you make it rain !!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 2 hours ago, Paula said: Test drive complete. Good hour drive including traffic and motorway. I think he deserves a wash now! That's great Paula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 Hi Pete. I know this is the 1600, so maybe different volumes, than the 2 Litre?. By coincidence, I recently asked about the oil volume between upper and lower marks on the dipstick for the 2 Litre and the reply was that is was about a 3rd of a litre, which seems a big difference?. Related to part of this post below Thanks On 05/02/2024 at 14:28, Pete Lewis said: next time you do an oil change check whats on the dip stick add 3.5 ltrs should give you the low oil level mark, add the last 1 ltr should give you the full mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 dave this is just a way to see if the dipstick marks bore any resemblance to the sump specified capacity having seen many a wrong dipstick over the years on many variety of engines when we got the Vit6 the stick would give you an extra 2 litres to the full mark ....hopelessly wrong and sump on 1600 and 2 ltr mk1 is the same , Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foshi Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 had both 1600 and late 2lt the 1600 always seemed the better engine felt quicker and revs more freely might just be me was the latter 1600 1965 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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