dave.vitesse Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, 68vitesse said: Just looked at Rimmers site they list a different adaptor and bolt for the Mk1 2L and Mk2 2L, that's something I've learnt today. Regards Paul Paul, Thanks for pointing that out. The Mk2 is the thinnest. The Mk1 is the middle thickness. Changes were made with the fan and extra clearance was required. If I remember the max thickness is fitted to the Big Saloons. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 As said I went with no spacer but it does need a great big thick washer to hold the pulley, bigger than the crank end diameter. Then the advantage of a smaller size fan is that you can position it slightly off centre to give max clearance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks for all that info and pics of fan installation interesting re thin washer and short bolt especially the alloy Us unit time to bite the bullet I think Peter T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Colin Lindsay said: I can get to mine but can't get materials! Been waiting over a week for fuses, can't get paint, or sandblast medium, but thankfully lots of petrol so greasy bits are all being cleaned. You'd think with so many people being housebound they'd allow you the materials to do things while you're stuck there... Strange world now, my friend ordered a bar of phosphor bronze from Germany last week and it arrived 2 days later on standard delivery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just found this but unfortunately they don't do one the the correct Triumph to buy. The Vitesse. https://www.revotec.com/acatalog/Negative-Earth-1-2.html Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 Paul, I don't think there is one for a Vitesse it's just finding one that fits. Revotec do a slimline fan which is 12" diameter and is only 53mm deep however I don't know if it has enough suck at 1120 cfm/h. Should be powerful enough as Rimmers are selling a Revotec 11" fan for GT6's. Looking at it logically pretty much any reasonable size electric fan will be better than the crank driven fan at say 800 rpm tick over. Once on the move the coolant temperature in my car reduces pretty rapidly. When I rebuild my block I am thinking of fitting Racetorations lightweight water pump which according to them has a higher pump volume than standard but at £198 I am not sure if it's one of those 'must haves' or it actually works. Anybody fitted one? Revotec will send you a free template to do trial fits which seem very helpful. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 I have a Spal 11 inch on my Vitesse on an ali rad,never overheats.(See avatar).Only time it crept up near the danger zone last year in hot weather was when i was in a traffic jam and realised the fan wasn`t working,turned out to be a dodgy fuse connection. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 44 minutes ago, Iain T said: Paul, I don't think there is one for a Vitesse it's just finding one that fits. Revotec do a slimline fan which is 12" diameter and is only 53mm deep The problem is that they usually quote just the maximum depth. The Kenlowe in my Vitesse is fitted so that the motor is in the gap between pulleys, but the blades are under an inch in depth so they clear the crank pulley spacer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 25 minutes ago, NonMember said: The problem is that they usually quote just the maximum depth. The Kenlowe in my Vitesse is fitted so that the motor is in the gap between pulleys, but the blades are under an inch in depth so they clear the crank pulley spacer. True, I used the free Revotec template and wasn't at all sure if one would fit. Do you know what size/model of Kenlowe you fitted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 Not the model, because I didn't fit it - that was the previous owner or earlier. I suspect it's not a current model, since I've owned the car for 17 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 I notice Quiller Triumph sell Superslim fans and spec a 14" for a Vitesse, might be worthwhile talking to him about the viability of actually fitting one and what you have to do but I would go for products anyone on the forum has fitted or it may be "buy in haste repent at leisure." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 Hello Iain, I use this chap and his fans are excellent - fitted them to a number of Sunbeam Alpine, my Vitesse and Daimler. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stoney-Racing-Electric-Radiator-Fan-120W-160W-220W-8-9-12-14-16-12v-Slim/182022136506?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2a615d62ba:m:mZ68BeT9SK71lUjF2mW-EaQ&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qXeQaMHAnjYtEfb830rmo9%2FpPNh3p2YAwQV2A2klwee8LwQb6oWEIAE0NUgFfW374IaxwHd4kjvzv5Yp5eA%2Fukj9FmqP39qTW%2FVLzNaiqNFthPgESbCFFou2eA9UZJWwFtzlxad2NSFsrI4PUA7xeREXpcHtGUYSl6FkndMZese%2BkJSIM59c0eQK9Ujv7aL4FDUIZboM4fkn7Fy6LMu2WLmJLDau7xWyPsY7xv23e7IZeA2aV42LqbvyHHpMT6pGNOy32d6VANL3U36Lwxo7KNDUeNubuG9ZCxTAfI5qa1Sxw%2FD9umj70MkcFm5UJRR5Jz2HQm9cA4ytHcp%2BwCuMFxC7oBHoXeXUHo9pAGuU%2F6%2FudOkwRc5O0KoPVPUftfcj46i71A2hfY%2B%2FF5cyNrAGRTNnyi4naK8TOOqkXR1a4CvRTSiN9rrwy3nD1CzmAItF305ugM1JHlOH0gysFhovLFKN3gugPwm2Tp8pCU%2Fgnw9O9TOlkjTxo%2FeNHUPj1jmDvZZauaKYm%2FbPPVbtSdsBDrexrZyHqzN8%2F8oZLiuI0yny%2FXvzKzmEPVjSkDSQ97QabZFkT7wZVwZudruQo1gV8mfunouqVD%2B1lL8Xlb63FzoFkx0VUY9sfVf0v3x1pcz6i01XLx7LPEOzfrubyCkLM8PZckT7Sut5T76MWQeSe12dNnW6%2BKzfy8usygG6Y05hti5B0YASFJ1RJudQQ3jsSKGY%2FOV9hGFeGQVY881Cl1uHWQ5ANKYVydTVdz4DsUv%2FoA%3D&checksum=18202213650665b4fc8434ef43319a5fd7afb70cac82 80W fans are useless IMHO - I appreciate many will have this size, just my personal choice. I fit the 120W fans and for the Daimler I have just fitted a 160W - did think about going 220W but not required. His sale page is useful, because he lists all the necessary dimensions and other required technical info. Hope it assists ?? Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 A more powerful fan also has the benefit of moving air around the engine bay when stationary which keeps my carbs cooler... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted March 31, 2020 Report Share Posted March 31, 2020 I had a 240W on my Stag. It was ridiculous. I fitted a variable speed controller and never ran it above a quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 If you fit or have the smaller fan spacer and using washers filed at an slant to mount the rad on the chassis you can then angle the rad forward to gain more clearance with the water pump. But watch the bonnet clearance with the filler cap. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 Richard, Thanks for the link, did you use the SRU PULL straight or curved blade 12" 120W? Certainly seems a good price especially as you have used them before and are presumably reliable. Also did you use their in line hose temp switch? Dave, Good tip I'll have a look as I have finally found someone to let me into the factory where my car has been stored! Iain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 Some fan makers are reputed to exaggerate the power of their items and the cheapy 120w Chinese eBay item I bought certainly didn't draw anywhere near 10amps.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, johny said: Some fan makers are reputed to exaggerate the power of their items and the cheapy 120w Chinese eBay item I bought certainly didn't draw anywhere near 10amps.... Exactly right, when it comes to cooling our classic engines for modern day traffic conditions paying an extra few bob for something that is reliable and works is cheap money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 You can get an idea by the thickness of the motor. 120w should be more than an inch and 220+ over 2 inches.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Iain T said: Richard, Thanks for the link, did you use the SRU PULL straight or curved blade 12" 120W? Certainly seems a good price especially as you have used them before and are presumably reliable. Also did you use their in line hose temp switch? Hello Iain, I used a120W / 12" fan with curved blade for the Vitesse & employed a top hose inline switch. The inline switch was not a Stony Racing product but a unit I had picked up elsewhere - both products have looked after the car and I have no issues with the cooling performance to date. I did consider a 14" fan, but the rad width is too narrow whereas the height is fine. 120W on the Vitesse is probably your limit dimension wise, due to the water pump housing. Dave, who owns the company, is a decent chap and helpful; he can be contacted outside of eBay and as such may warrant a better price - just a thought. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 Richard, Thanks very much for the information a recommendation from a Forum member is worth more than all the stars on eBay. Sitting on the M4 in a 10 mile traffic jam with the temp gauge getting up to the "I'm bl**dy hot" range was not good. When I tried the Revotec template it was as you say the water pump housing that caused the problem. Cheers Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted April 1, 2020 Report Share Posted April 1, 2020 3 hours ago, johny said: Some fan makers are reputed to exaggerate the power of their items and the cheapy 120w Chinese eBay item I bought certainly didn't draw anywhere near 10amps.... I recently measured the current draw on a ebay fan. Yes, it did draw the 120W (10A) but on startup, once running it was down to 5A (60W) I HIGHLY recommend Spal fans. Not cheap, but OE on merc (or used to be) and suppliers to WRC teams etc etc. They publish all the data you could want on their fans. But like Steve above, I have their cheapish (£65) 11"fan on my 185bhp spitfire. Once the fan kicks in after a thrashing, it stays on for a pretty short time to bring the temp down. Just a proper quality bit of kit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 Clive, The Spal fan is indeed extremely compact, powerful plus OE supplier definitely worth considering. T7 design sell them as you say for about £60. Thanks Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Iain T said: Clive, The Spal fan is indeed extremely compact, powerful plus OE supplier definitely worth considering. T7 design sell them as you say for about £60. Thanks Iain T7 is indeed where I bought mine. Looking back it was a little under £60 at the time. I was tempted by one of the WRC fans, but decided it would be overkill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted April 2, 2020 Report Share Posted April 2, 2020 Another vote for Spal via T7 design. Have one on the GT6 - it works well. Not sure what the one on my Vitesse is - came from our local radiator repair shop about 15 years ago and is still going strong. Was only about £40 at the time. It's was a very tight fit, since slightly relieved by shuffling the engine back about 15mm. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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