chrishawley Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 There is hope the GT6 (3) might get finished!!! I'm thinking about buying a new tailgate glass rather than up cycling one the existing rather tabby ones I've got. But before I part with £££lots does anyone have experience to say whether the repros are up to standard. By which I mainly mean do they fit alright without any fuss? Also, on the repros, are the heating elements applied to the surface or moulded into the glass? Any advice much appreciated. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Chris, What sort of a state are the “tabby” ones in? I have my original glass and against the odds the heater still works, but I don’t think there are many that do. Repair kits I’ve seen involve depositing metal on the glass so I think the original are surface mounted. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Why buy a repro when you can get a NOS one. Well that is what I was told it was and it looks very good. It is a Syndym one though. I will get the data off the triplex stamping and check the date. Got a new seal on it as well. Whole assy was fitted to a car undergoing a Concours rebuild, and then removed again a few years later, car is still not on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 any heated glass of the era was bonded to the glass surface , most will be toughend glass modern may well be laminated which needs careful handling or you cane crack it if rubbers and such become hard work to fit where as toughend is pretty idiot proofed and can be whacked and pushed into place when padding the glass an old leather glove filled with sand makes a good soft whacking assistant Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishawley Posted August 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Thanks for the replies. What I've got is two rear windows. Neither have working heater elements and have picked up abrasions and scratches - doubtful if could be polished out but I've got some 3M polish I could at least try. Point taken about toughened rather than laminated - especially having just blown £120 on breaking a front screen putting it in. Ho hum. I didn't know that NOS would be a possibility (syndym or not would be fine) - NOS would be great. Any suggestions for a supplier? Many thanks for the comments. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 Chris, Here's an example of a repair kit I was talking about, there are a few on Ebay. People I know who've tried them weren't expecting great results, but some actually worked. Cleanliness is the key, apparently. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIMPLY-XTREME-DEMISTER-ELEMENT-REPAIR-KIT-Heated-Car-Rear-Window-Screen-XRDR1/184034831389?epid=8017025115&hash=item2ad954ac1d:g:0QUAAOSwwO9dzCOY Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted August 21, 2020 Report Share Posted August 21, 2020 1 hour ago, chrishawley said: I didn't know that NOS would be a possibility (syndym or not would be fine) - NOS would be great. Any suggestions for a supplier? Many thanks for the comments. Chris It is in my garage 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishawley Posted August 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2020 On 21/08/2020 at 21:28, thescrapman said: It is in my garage 🙂 Dear Scrapman, Would you be willing to part with it for a suitable sum? if so I could give you my contact details and perhaps think about the suitable level of £££s Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6M Posted August 23, 2020 Report Share Posted August 23, 2020 On 21/08/2020 at 21:13, dougbgt6 said: Chris, Here's an example of a repair kit I was talking about, there are a few on Ebay. People I know who've tried them weren't expecting great results, but some actually worked. Cleanliness is the key, apparently. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIMPLY-XTREME-DEMISTER-ELEMENT-REPAIR-KIT-Heated-Car-Rear-Window-Screen-XRDR1/184034831389?epid=8017025115&hash=item2ad954ac1d:g:0QUAAOSwwO9dzCOY Doug thee,s kits a pent on stuff,or a stick on reason asking is if a stick on, wid 1.5 mm strips, like the older type heated window kits then whenst ye got a doz or so lines ont window it,ll be pulling 25 - 30 amps, which is a darn sight moer than OE, or what the switch or the wires will tek, been there found oot, need bigger wires and a relay t,tek load oft switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 From reading the ebay ad this kit is paint on. It comes with masking tape and you’re repairing broken sections of the matrix. To keep it looking right you wouldn’t be making the repairs wider than the original, so you won’t be pulling more current. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 hours ago, dougbgt6 said: From reading the ebay ad this kit is paint on. It comes with masking tape and you’re repairing broken sections of the matrix. To keep it looking right you wouldn’t be making the repairs wider than the original, so you won’t be pulling more current. Doug Very very fiddly stuff to work with and from my own ham-fisted experience you never get it looking like the original filaments - you always have a thick silver bit joining the lines! I remember trying it back in the mid-1980s with a Daihatsu I had that had lost some of the rear demister filaments and could never get it to look right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 I have a little bottle of the stuff , years old and its still liquid getting it on the glass and the tape all aligned was like sealing the bath with silicon starts of nice then develops into a disaster of piped smears and finger prints pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Never had any success with the stuff, even back in the dark ages when it first came out. I remember trying to do repairs with bits of silver foil. Of course that never worked either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 and on a saloon with out a tailgate just getting in the back seat and contorting to reach the glass is a world too far and these days ...impossible the one on the 2000 works but ive never needed it . pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Spotted this on fleabay... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rear-Window-Adhesive-Screen-Heater/123865766148?hash=item1cd6f99904:g:n5EAAOSwOb9eIYBT Brings back the happy memories of trying to put one on straight.. it never was. I'm sure they were a lot cheaper in the 70's (pro rata) with more grids, although the picture on the box in the photo must breech sale of goods acts? Could be useful if I ever get my hardtop finished I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Lucas version a lot cheaper: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lucas-Universal-Full-Width-Rear-Screen-Heater-Classic-Vintage/383637138502?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225113%26meid%3Da1561a79f82e45e98555db34efab1464%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D123865766148%26itm%3D383637138502%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DItemStripV7%26brand%3DLucas&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219 Best fitted with the glass removed and lying flat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said: Lucas version a lot cheaper: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lucas-Universal-Full-Width-Rear-Screen-Heater-Classic-Vintage/383637138502?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225113%26meid%3Da1561a79f82e45e98555db34efab1464%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D123865766148%26itm%3D383637138502%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DItemStripV7%26brand%3DLucas&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219 Best fitted with the glass removed and lying flat! New old stock, just wonder about the state of the adhesive, remember fitting something similar to an old HC Viva two door I had, don't think I could do it now. Worked OK. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 May just be worth making an offer for while my back window is out. Wonder if there are any modern adhesives that would work on it.....adhesives...reminds me of something??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Twitchen Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 Is it me but have never had the rear window on my GT6 mist up whatever the weather or time of year. However, always keep the ventilation level up. Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 I have never had the hard top on to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted August 24, 2020 Report Share Posted August 24, 2020 On 23/08/2020 at 21:00, chrishawley said: Dear Scrapman, Would you be willing to part with it for a suitable sum? if so I could give you my contact details and perhaps think about the suitable level of £££s Cheers Chris I checked it and I think it is dates 1970, will have a very close look at the HRW looking for damage. will let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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