Paul H Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Recently added a Spin Off Oil Filter from the Club Shop - Is this angle for the filter ok See Pic , Im a bit limited with the oil pressure tubing . Any info appreciated Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 If the filter is anti-drain it will work at any angle, and theoretically stay full of oil when not in use so as to circulate it more quickly on next startup. Angle it so that it's not rubbing against anything metal or otherwise and it will be fine. By the way your pressure tubing looks very thin - it's hard to tell from a photo but it looks like ordinary plastic tubing and I'd worry about it as a weak spot leading to a burst and loss of oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hi Colin , I bought the oil pressure set up second hand from Spitfire Graveyard and it was from a spitfire - Can you suggest a source for a thicker tubing - thanks for your advice . The oil filter has anti drain Thanks Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hello Paul. I have exactly the same set-up as you. On my car I have angled the filter downwards as much as is possible and yes the oil pressure switch extension does make changing the filter a bit more challenging !! Colin is correct to point out the tube you have - it is too thin by far and ideally you should opt for a stainless steel hose which I have done. It is more robust and looks smarter. Not sure if I have a photo in my Vitesse album (just about got every other photo !!), but if not I will take some and pop on the thread for you to view. Good luck. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Paul. For example, have a look at Ebay 310846011231 You can get the ends in chrome / silver !! Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hello Paul. Or this Ebay 282005722339 item. My braided hose from the pressure switch to gauge is 4ft with no tight turns and sufficient slack. One point I will add is that you must ensure you have the small rubber o ring between the hose screw end and the oil pressure gauge. If not, you know where that oil is going !! The other end of the hose has a normal flat washer. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Richard, An excellent upgrade. I've got plastic pipe and I've never thought, "What if?" Another Ebay purchase coming up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted June 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hello Paul. Or this Ebay 282005722339 item. My braided hose from the pressure switch to gauge is 4ft with no tight turns and sufficient slack. One point I will add is that you must ensure you have the small rubber o ring between the hose screw end and the oil pressure gauge. If not, you know where that oil is going !! The other end of the hose has a normal flat washer. Regards. Richard. This is a similar to what I currently have Ebay Link would the stainless ones you suggest use the same end fittings Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hello Paul. I would run with this item to be honest 282005722339 It's exactly what I have got and does the job perfectly - fit & forget with peace of mind. Always worth phoning the seller to confirm the screw ends you want & what they are intended for. Looking at the photo, they are correct. Doug - sorry to make a few pounds poorer !! Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 plastic tubing is used far more than many like. the evolution over the years makes it quite reliable, we introduced trucks with nylon tube on full air brakes pipes in 1977 and the trade went ooh argh its standard now on everything my T2000 has the small bore clear tube and its been on there far longer than Ive owned her , and guess Im unlikely to change it . same as push on fuel lines , no clips to distort the hose . all down to preference , of the loves and hates of what to do with what. anyone want a Cold in the Dose and a cough from the bowels of the earth... Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 No thank you Pete. I have one of each already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Hello Paul & Doug. A couple of photos of the oil filter angle & braided oil pressure hose. On leaving the oil pressure T switch, the hose goes under the fuel pump, then behind the engine block coming up near the master cylinders and then through the bulkhead to the oil pressure gauge. This route provides plenty of support for the hose and equally important the hose has gentle curves all along its length of travel. If you need to use cable ties to assist with support then I would ensure that the hose still has movement without any degree of pinching for obvious reasons !! Hope that assists ?? Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Richard, thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6M Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 No, its not OK, and its not what it was designed for. there are filters on the market that are shallow enough to fit under neath,t adaptor they fit Reliants, and some others, no too sure, its a long long time since I had the OE filter and this filter was reccomended by the makers. there used to be an Angled adapter on the market yonks ago, only ever seen 2 they angled towards the oot side, so a bigger filter can fit on. wid tht set up, ye deffo need a Double anti drain filter,Mann comes to mind as most of the oil is running oot oft filter, therefore negating its effectivness. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 So are you (GT6M) saying that this standard size anti-drain filter angled at 45 degrees is worse that the standard horizontal filter element assembly that Triumph designed ??????? I'm struggling to see how oil can drain from a filter that is at angle of less than horizontal - perhaps you could expand on that ?? The shallower a filter the less filtering surface area it has, are you saying that less filter surface area is better than more ?? I have a Rootes vehicle that has a manufacturers upside down anti-drain filter assembly, are you saying that all the money invested by Rootes in to that method of filtration was incorrect ?? They certainly did not use a double anti-drain system and nor has any problem been experienced by such owners. I've run many vehicles with angled and upside down filters and provided the correct filter assembly is used then the system works perfectly. To date I've never experienced knocking on start-up or delayed oil pressure build-up. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Richard Totally agree with all your points. My experience although probably more limited than yours confirms that holding oil in the filter does improve start up lubrication Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6M Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 It happens, take it as said, ive looked into this alott, and got rid of all problems,oil light is off before engine starts. does yours,.!!! lots of cars have upside down filters, but the internals are different, stack pipes come to mind, as well as double drains. the bigger the filter, the moer oil flows oot, the longer it teks to fill up, simples biggest prob is the oil galley, it totally drains of oil as well as filter, so pump has to re charge all thee,s or is your engine not prone to this, its a first if it is. if yer no hearing a nok,after a long lay up, 2 days, 1 day with some filters.need to go to get yer lugs cleaned oot, ora hearing aid, as every T engine does it, Is it hard work to get a smaller filter, and fit it verticly, !!! M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Well I'm very pleased to inform you that I do not get any knocking or any of the above negatives you have described; even when the engine has not been started for weeks. So I will be staying with my proven oil delivery & filtering system as all seems in order. Hopefully the above news will make your weekend; especially as there appears to be a first - thanks for your input whatever value it may have been. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6M Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Well I'm very pleased to inform you that I do not get any knocking or any of the above negatives you have described; even when the engine has not been started for weeks. So I will be staying with my proven oil delivery & filtering system as all seems in order. ------------------------------- Totally impossarble facts. maybe your idea of oil delay is no same as mine. If you got no oil delay, {as in No delay} then there must be anti drain plugs in yer main oil gallery. and also in the pump tract to filter, If so, this will be a first, And, you must be the only Sixpot owner in History to have no oil light delay. must be a very well kept secret,, Even me 2 moderns have a delay if left fora week or so. Suzuki and a MX Err, seen this thread, bloke needs your set up, http://forum.tssc.org.uk/index.php?/topic/1580-crank-bearings-knocking-on-start-up/ M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRevver Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 Quick question relating to this old topic... Is the pipe / hose from the block via the T piece to the sensor just a MK2 thing? I have a Vitesse MK1 and am thinking of changing from the original filter to a screw on conversion and my oil sensor goes straight into the block. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, TRevver said: Is the pipe / hose from the block via the T piece to the sensor just a MK2 thing? The only factory fitted oil "sensor" was a 4-6psi N/C switch fitted direct into the block. The same fitment was used on all Triumphs. If you're referring to the extra bits on the photo at the top of the thread, those are all after-market add-ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRevver Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 Thanks. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 I have the same setup as Richard,pretty much the same angle on the filter,and i use the Fram PH2964,pleased to say i have no knock on start and oil light out when cranking. This is on a 2.5 engine with about 20k miles using Valvoline VR1.I bought 2 short Mann filters to try but after reading the thread on priming after changing filters i decided to stick with what i have. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 on a mk1 you may have the early breather pipe down nr the fuel pump , if you have this you have to re route/modify it or the spin on kit wont fit made mine from plumbing fittings a rubber Hose can also work Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRevver Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 All I have on mine is this... Would the screw-on adapter fit ok? I notice the club shop only sell one type but Rimmers have 2, depending on oil-cooler or not - looks like the club one would be fine anyway as I don't have the oil cooler but does anyone know if the club-supplied one is the "newer" type with the spring-loaded centre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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