PeteH Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Hi I have "discovered" 3 full unused in makers packing Quintin Hazel QL 102 Universal Joints in my "collection". I am of the mind they where purchased to service my Wife`s 1600 Vitesse in the 1980`s. They LOOK as if the would be correct for the Herald (13/60) Rear drive shafts. Anyone know what the equivalent is? Rimmer list them as GUJ 115. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 the basic prop and drive shaft uj is common across the small chassis range this is where Garth would have been useful !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Hello Paul. This may assist and covers GKN UJ's on reference number GUJ115 - looking at the x-references for Herald / Vitesse it appears (as Pete has mentioned) that in the main it's a generic fitting for these Triumphs with coverage years quoted: Triumph Herald propshaft and halfshaft 59-71 Spitfire propshaft and halfshaft 62-82 GT6 propshaft and halfshaft 66-74 Vitesse propshaft and halfshaft 62-71 TR7 propshaft 75-81 2000 Mk1, Mk2 propshaft 63-77 2500, 2.5Pi Mk 1, Mk2 propshaft 74-77 2.5Pi Mk 1, Mk2 propshaft 68-74 Dolomite 1.3 propshaft 76-81 Dolomite 1.5 propshaft 76-81 Dolomite 1.8 propshaft 72-81 Dolomite 2.0 Sprint propshaft 74-81 Toledo 1.3 propshaft 70-76 1500 rwd propshaft 73-76 Hope it assists ?? Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted August 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 HI Cheers guy`s. I reckon I will give it a punt. The bearings are Pristine wrapped/packed, despite being at least 30+year old!!. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juppy Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Pete, The info Richard has posted is indeed correct, not long before I "left the shop" there was a possible issue with the Heavy Duty UJ's being the devils own job to fit, but the ones you have are the standard ones and is what I would always fit given a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Checked various uj cups, including GKN with large rollers, with a micrometer all the same size. This was in a reply to a post last December when I was rebuilding a drive shaft for a Mk1 Vitesse 2L. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Hello Garth. Good to hear from you. I believe that users on this Forum will be more than appreciative to have your input on all matters raised. Sound knowledge makes progress easier !! Hope all is well ?? Best wishes. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Yes! Echo that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 double echo keep smiling Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted August 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Hi Just to say. They fitted Perfect. Not an enormous saving but better than "nowt" as we say. Seeing as I probably paid a fraction of what they cost now!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu1ckn1ck Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Just bought two UJ's this morning for my GT6 from our local MG specialist - just under £10 each. They appear to be common to Midgets, MGB's and many other vehicles as well as small chassis Triumphs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Do you have the part number ?? Always useful to have when others are seeking to find such things. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu1ckn1ck Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 9 hours ago, classiclife said: Do you have the part number ?? Always useful to have when others are seeking to find such things. Regards. Richard. Brown & Gammons part number GUJ101, price £9.54 ea. This part number seems "universal" to suppliers such as Moss, Canley, Robsport ..... B&G are handy for me to collect so no p+p charges or delivery delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Can anyone confirm the direction that grease nipples should face in the non-sealed-for-life Hardy Spicer units? I'm building up a propshaft but can't remember if they face into the shaft, or away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve C Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just a word of caution. I would always favour NOS parts over modern repro, but I have had a "sealed for life" QH top ball joint fail in under 1000 miles. I think what had happened was that the grease wthin it had broken down or dried out after years sitting in the box. "Sealed for life" simply did not anticipate madmen like us unwrapping this stuff and fitting it half a century after it was made! With NOS UJs at least you an ease the bearing cups off and re-pack with fresh grease before you use them. Regards Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynebaby Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Colin, I fit mine on the GT6 facing the prop rather than the flange. I have a feeling that if you do it the other way there isn't enough space for a grease gun to attach on the nipple. And yes, the more observant will have noticed that my prop shaft is fitted back to front (i.e. with the sliding joint at the front) It came that way around and since it doesn't vibrate I'm leaving it that way! Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 with the telescope up front theres less room to align the grease gun otherwise it doesnt matter which way...anything is better than having a strap drive . i agree on NOS its not always a way forward, when life is expired in a box on a shelf. but often better when india rubber is used with no life, no adhesion, but unfortunately ....... available pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 2:23 PM, Waynebaby said: Colin, I fit mine on the GT6 facing the prop rather than the flange. I have a feeling that if you do it the other way there isn't enough space for a grease gun to attach on the nipple. Wayne Thanks Wayne; I think from experience that if you fit it the wrong way round, the grease nipple will foul on the flange and you won't get full movement or rotation, and if you remove it you can't see the aperture to fit the blanking plug. I didn't want to fit mine and find it the wrong way, and so have to dismantle / refit again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerguzzi Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Hello All I may have a U/J problem on Spitty(grunching noise on wheel rotating seems a double grunch?) I replaced all bearings (NOS and genuine GKN U/J freelander type)plus drive shaft so not a happy Bunny! I was looking on Fleabay and saw these(not know if needed yet?) What do we think of the grease nipple position? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-FREELANDER-1-2-0-TD4-NEW-PROPSHAFT-UNIVERSAL-JOINT-UJ-TVF100000-x1-/332047950474?fits=Model%3AFreelander&hash=item4d4f99a28a:g:FAEAAOSw4GVYPaFi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynebaby Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 The grease nipple is in the same location as those sold by ANG and so I guess it must be OK. It'd certainly make greasing the UJ in service a lot simpler. http://www.angclassiccarparts.co.uk/home/triumph-5981/spitfire/drive-train-gearbox/universal-joint-circlips-spitfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Balance .....less problem on a slower revolving drive shaft but on a high speed prop that could throw the balance out Enough to be noticeable , dont know , I like the simple idea always accessible Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 16 hours ago, rogerguzzi said: Hello All I may have a U/J problem on Spitty(grunching noise on wheel rotating seems a double grunch?) I replaced all bearings (NOS and genuine GKN U/J freelander type)plus drive shaft so not a happy Bunny! I was looking on Fleabay and saw these(not know if needed yet?) What do we think of the grease nipple position? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-FREELANDER-1-2-0-TD4-NEW-PROPSHAFT-UNIVERSAL-JOINT-UJ-TVF100000-x1-/332047950474?fits=Model%3AFreelander&hash=item4d4f99a28a:g:FAEAAOSw4GVYPaFi Drilling/tapping the cup??? I assumed the cups were hardened, so that should be difficult/impossible. May be a sign that the cups are not hardened?? Think I would swerve those.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 the uj with a cup greaser is pretty standard on some landrover spec. certainly you need to drill/ tap before hardening the cup dont think this is at all possible as a retro fit . . Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 On 9/28/2017 at 8:23 AM, Pete Lewis said: Balance .....less problem on a slower revolving drive shaft but on a high speed prop that could throw the balance out Enough to be noticeable , dont know , I like the simple idea always accessible Pete Yes, not keen on those... it may just be a slight imbalance but I'd still be wary. I'll stick with the traditional versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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