Colin Lindsay Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Lindt "Classic Gold" for me..... it's well filtered by the time I'm finished with it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 a good few cars of the era had a semi loose threaded adaptor twiddled into the block , but in over 50 years of oil changing only had one canister with a defective crimp, the worst leaks came from the Vitesse when i bought her and it had the dreaded two 0 rings down the canister groove and done up by a gorilla and as for drain back well its done it for over 40 years and the engines are fine ,its only in the late 70s that flap valves became popular when side mounted filters came about pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Don't go Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Sorry quick add on to this. Is there a shallower spin on filter than the standard one? I.e. less deep? Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Clive mentioned 11RC, above as shorter filters. Don't know what that reference is, though would like to know myself of shorter filters. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 The black Mahle filters were less deep, if I remember rightly. I used them on the GT6 until I turned the adaptor to allow a bigger filter, albeit almost upside down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Thanks is Colin A dumb question but do all spin on filters have the same thread? Or so I need to find one specific like this? https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mahle-Oil-Filter-OX16D-Genuine-Part/161791058347?fits=Car+Make%3ATriumph|Model%3AGT6&hash=item25ab7fa1ab:g:UtUAAOSwv0tVEUgw&_trkparms=gclientid%3Dba8qwaJvbb-A1G_bCyVFVP7No1WlNW1ZjEcdJo87Y-ACmwZdqJOvxdXugXPxeFo6&_trksid=p2489528.m4335.l8656 Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Aiden, that is a generic pic, probably that filter is the std replaceable element type. All the spin-on conversions use a 3/4 16 UNF thread (same as the adaptors I imported, because there is such a huge variety available) Some people had fitted, with varying success, M20 threaded filters. Close to 3/4UNF, but really not worth the risk when the correct thread is easily available. And indeed filters vary in diameters etc, so to answer your question, you need to get a filter with the correct thread, and the correct seal size. Other than that it is down to available space. If you want a small filter, try the Mann W77, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mann-Oil-Filter-Spin-On-Type-Renault-Fuego-136-9-L42-5-122-4-R21-R23-112-20-127/332444155227?hash=item4d67373d5b:g:uYgAAOSws6ZaBRSC either buy there or it will give you a car -fit list so you can buy anywhere... https://catalog.mann-filter.com/EU/eng/catalog/MANN-FILTER Katalog Europa/Oil Filter/W 77 (BTW IIRC= if I remember correctly!!) The small filter will be absolutely fine, it is still bigger than the ones fitted to MX5's etc, and is OE fit to a load of cars. Also very popular with kitcar chaps as it helps with space issues, just like on a 6 cylinder small chassis cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 Thanks Clive Will order a couple to keep me going, it will be much better than the standard depth ones, they are a pain to fit, this will make it a lot easier Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Thanks Clive, Received these today - They will make it so much easier to fit. I have mine pointing down @ about 20 degrees from vertical and the standard length is difficult to remove due to the oil relief valve housing which just sticks out in the wrong place! Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Underwood Posted April 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Many thanks, Clive, the 3/4" adaptor was easy to fit (once I'd gone out and bought a long reach socket to get the original one off) and the Mann filter you recommended went on with a satisfying number of turns, and Hedwig didn't spit it out like she did with the cheap 'n' nasty ones. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 The last Spit 1500 I owned I too got fed up with the filters on offer and went the 3/4 UNF adaptor way. Then you have a number of filter makers available and they are the same type as those used on the six cylinder spin-on conversion. Totally agree with Clive Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Underwood Posted May 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 I fitted the 3/4" adaptor and the Mann filter, and all seemed well until this morning when the car spat the oil filter off again and covered the driveway in even more oil. There only seems to be 2-3 turns of the filter until it tightens up, and I'm wondering if the threaded mounting should protrude from the block more. Is it meant to have a washer behind it? The other thing I'm wondering is if the oil pressure relief valve isn't working correctly, which is probably the more likely thing. Any ideas gratefully received. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 Oil filter should have a relief valve in it too - mind you that will only work if the pressure is inside the filter presumably. If you suspect the PRV just drop it out - something like a 13/16" spanner - then pull the valve out and spring - should slide out nice and easy. Spring should compress between the fingers a little bit. (Like it will move in a tad, but nothing more.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 I changed the oil on the red spit yesterday, using said 3/4" adaptor and the tall mann filter. Seemed to go on nicely, good few turns etc. And the threaded bit that sticks out the block is something that canno really be altered, maybe a washer under it? But I think oil pressure needs investigating, this is happening when cold so oil is thick, but something odd going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Cooper Posted May 13, 2018 Report Share Posted May 13, 2018 Simon, this is probably a very silly suggestion, but there isn't an old rubber seal from the last filter still stuck to the block is there? I can't think of anything else that would cause the filter to have so few turns before tightening. Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 I have that T shirt Adrian Aidan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted May 14, 2018 Report Share Posted May 14, 2018 Just to add my bit. I have been using filters from the club shop for years, never had a problem. regards Andrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted May 15, 2018 Report Share Posted May 15, 2018 Andrew, I've already had my ear chewed over this, but the club shop supplies quality stuff and we should all support it. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 WIX. Often available from the small non chain retailers or eBay. very good filters with a following in the States with the Datsun guys, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 18 hours ago, scooter said: WIX. Often available from the small non chain retailers or eBay. very good filters with a following in the States with the Datsun guys, And Eurotech Honda's title sponsor in the BTCC. Gully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Fit the filter hand tight. Run the engine and when it is hot re-tighten the filter by hand. Be careful not to burn your hand on the hot parts of the engine. Never had any problems with the 3/4 adaptors. Ensure any adaptor if fully threaded into the block. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 What is odd is that Simon explained that the filter only went on 3 threads. I checked all my remaining adaptors, all identical to the one Simon has, plus the one I have just fitted to my Wifes Spitfire. The shoulder means there should be 6-7 turns of thread available. The filter Simon used is identical to the one I have used. There is something odd happening, I am waiting to hear what happens with the MGB type filter he is now trying....(same as used on my Zetec conversion, but only a single drain valve like the originals) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Underwood Posted May 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) The moment of truth will be tomorrow or Sunday. I found a couple of interesting things whilst digging around on the web, though. There's a guy in the States who's put a video on Youtube about fitting an oil filter to his Spitfire, and encountered a lack of available threads when tightening the filter (this was with the 3/4" adaptor), and fitted a 1/4" spacer behind the adaptor to bring it out further. Mind you, he took the adaptor out with an easy out and had clearly left some swarf in it when he screwed the filter on! Also, Clive, I was looking at the oil filter thread on the CT website that you'd contributed to, and I noticed that one of the contributors to that had had a filter blowing off incident as well, and someone else had screwed the adaptor into the filter first before fitting it to the block, it might even have been the same chap. My theory, a theory that is mine, etc etc, is that the oil filter fitment after the oil filters with the male fitting ceased to be available is a bit borderline, and modern filters can be a bit of a gamble in some instances depending on the manufacturing tolerances of how far the threaded base is fitted into the canister, which would affect the distance between the hole and the seal. Perhaps the thickness of the seal can vary as well. This doesn't seem to affect the great majority of engines from what I can gather, but mine seems to be one of the ones it does. As an experiment, I put my old oil filter back on, no problems at all. Watch this space......................... Edited May 18, 2018 by Simon Underwood typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I agree Clive, 6 to 7 turns. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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