s99sdp Posted August 28, 2019 Report Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 27/08/2019 at 07:34, Pete Lewis said: These are the old nutshell to grease or not to grease Sealed for life , what life Whilst there plenty of experience with crap UJ from over sea's any decent unit will last as long as as the originals Or there abouts , most were not greasable and have the myth of only lasting well beyond their expected life Yes they have a hard life on a drive shaft but many have managed to out liven expectation A good branded uj greased as supplied will not require regular servicing, especially with the limited mileages many manage. The ones you are replacing have probably lasted 20 to40 years its a bit late to loose sleep over. Service whats intended and drive ....more than worry more keep things in perspective Well its hot again Pete "Service whats intended and drive ....more than worry more keep things in perspective" Very wise words Pete. I've stopped almost all work this year on the can to actually get out and drive it. It's been the first time I've enjoyed driving in years. SP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 I was checking the diff oil level and also took a look at the UJ,s . They are greaseable and the flat screw came out but tried a long grease nipple but it wouldn’t fit as the collar of the extended nipple caught against the yoke and cross threading felt highly likely I suppose I need a short one ? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, Paul H said: I suppose I need a short one ? But using that, means the gun then fouls?, which I assume was the reason the post was about lack of success with a long nipple. Messed about with all this myself and will go with the above advice "not worth the hassle"?. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 On 28/08/2019 at 15:41, s99sdp said: Very wise words Pete. I've stopped almost all work this year on the can to actually get out and drive it. It's been the first time I've enjoyed driving in years. SP Never drove a can, meself... but it sure sounds like fun. 2 hours ago, Paul H said: I was checking the diff oil level and also took a look at the UJ,s . They are greaseable and the flat screw came out but tried a long grease nipple but it wouldn’t fit as the collar of the extended nipple caught against the yoke and cross threading felt highly likely I suppose I need a short one ? Paul THAT, as Dave says, is indeed the problem. I think, if you jack the car up, and rotate the axle, you'll find one direction only that you have enough room where the yoke opens up due to the angle, but I haven't yet confirmed this myself. Otherwise, it's difficult to get anything to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 Assuming you can fit a grease nipple then the following could well work https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-AK447-Needle-Nose-Grease-Dispenser/142591095762?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40733%26meid%3D083a6c48ea7a4fb4978286bb41378630%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D152707766010%26itm%3D142591095762%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2481888&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A0459c7ab-ca8e-11e9-a301-74dbd180287d|parentrq%3Adeb7ee5b16c0a4b7fc886349ffdb6b10|iid%3A1 Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted August 29, 2019 Report Share Posted August 29, 2019 Colin L I'll bench test the oil can again with new refluxed nipples to see if the oil will flow through. Poppyman, Johny & Pete I'll ensure the ball is free by probing the nipple orifice with a straightened paperclip, but just the thought will bring tears to my eyes, being a sensitive type of guy! Grumpy aka Peter T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 12 hours ago, Paul H said: Assuming you can fit a grease nipple I don't think there's a problem with the standard/short nipples fitting, just you can't get the gun tip, to it. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 if we keep mentioning guns and nipples GCHQ will be watching us ???? pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 18 hours ago, Paul H said: I was checking the diff oil level and also took a look at the UJ,s . They are greaseable and the flat screw came out but tried a long grease nipple but it wouldn’t fit as the collar of the extended nipple caught against the yoke and cross threading felt highly likely I suppose I need a short one ? Paul Is that circlip located properley Paul ?? It looks to be out on one side...or is it just the photo? Tony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 good spot. i always measure between the pin holes to ensure they are all located the same depth as a double check the bottom one looks very close together ??? pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) Maybe some copper grease over them, easier to remove clips in the future/deter ingress of water?. Dave Edited August 30, 2019 by daverclasper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 Here's my special UJ home made grease nipple, I think I made it around 30yrs ago, yes its only 1/8in copper oil pressure pipe so obviously you have to be careful but hey its survived 4 Triumphs and a Jag XJ & it still gets used at least once a year on 3 Triumphs but only UJ's. Overall its 4cm long & the ends are just soft soldered on. Tightening up I use a small 1/4 socket just hand tight or a little nip up, every so often the stem gets bent but straightens up Ok till now!! Peter T 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted August 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 Hi Peter can you make me one please as your soldering skills look spot on Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 4 hours ago, poppyman said: Is that circlip located properley Paul ?? It looks to be out on one side...or is it just the photo? Tony. Hi Andrew . Well spotted . I’ve checked and whilst they are not in fully they are catching the groove in most places. When I changed the ujs 3 years ago the circlips wouldn’t fit so I ground them down a fraction . I didn’t realise I could get thinner ones so will get some and replace . If I can not sort in situ I will have to remove the drive shaft and doughnut assembly ??? Lovely job 😡 I did notice the Ujs had grease on the outside and removing the blanking screw the grease was still fresh so looks like there’s plenty in there , Thanks again for spotting the issue Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted August 30, 2019 Report Share Posted August 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Andrew said: Hi Peter can you make me one please as your soldering skills look spot on I reckon you could use Araldite. Pound shop sell a 2 part double syringe thing, that seems strong and goes off in about 5 mins. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s99sdp Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 29/08/2019 at 17:00, Colin Lindsay said: Never drove a can, meself... but it sure sounds like fun. THAT, as Dave says, is indeed the problem. I think, if you jack the car up, and rotate the axle, you'll find one direction only that you have enough room where the yoke opens up due to the angle, but I haven't yet confirmed this myself. Otherwise, it's difficult to get anything to fit. It feels like I'm in a can when I'm doing 60mph on the A14 and an articulated lorry basically runs over me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, s99sdp said: It feels like I'm in a can when I'm doing 60mph on the A14 and an articulated lorry basically runs over me. I suppose in these days of recycling there's no telling what the metal in your car used to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Colin Lindsay said: I suppose in these days of recycling there's no telling what the metal in your car used to be... During the 2nd World War people used to donate garden railings, pots and pans to be boiled down for the war effort. So not a new idea. I like to think my GT6 has Spitfire bits, not Hurricane as that would be silly, they were made of wood. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 You're thinking of the Mosquito, doug, the Wooden Wonder, faster than a Spitfire! Hurricanes had a steel and aluminium frame, aumented with wood formers to shape the early fabric fuselage skin, later replace d by stressed aluminium panels. The wings were always stressed alloy. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 These days it's just the driver that's stressed. Did you know that not one of the aluminium saucepans donated by the public during the war - and there were millions - ever went towards building an aeroplane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 39 minutes ago, JohnD said: You're thinking of the Mosquito, doug, the Wooden Wonder, faster than a Spitfire! Yup, wrong again! Thanks John. 34 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said: Did you know that not one of the aluminium saucepans donated by the public during the war - and there were millions - ever went towards building an aeroplane? No I didn't know that. How do you know that? Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 It seems to be the theme on a number of historical websites and is currently being taught in schools - my other half was studying WW2 with the children and told me that it was an exercise to make people feel like they were 'doing their bit'. Although records were shredded soon after the war, the National Archives states: Posters, information leaflets and slogans persuaded and reminded everyone that they had a part to play in fighting the war on the 'Home Front'. 'Saucepans for Spitfires' was one of the most famous campaigns. People were asked to give their aluminium pans so that they could be melted down to make parts for aircraft. In fact the government did not need any more aluminium but it believed the appeal meant people felt that they were doing something to defeat Hitler and helped to keep morale up. Lord Beaverbrook himself claimed we have more than enough aluminium, we need pilots! It's rumoured that a lot of the railings and things donated were dumped in the Thames estuary from barges... some have claimed that low-grade metal from railings etc was used in bomb casings but not aeroplanes. It's nice to think that the metal played more of a part than just a morale booster, but it seems the donations were just never used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 Interesting. The Chinese did the same thing during the "great push forward" or whatever it was called. The population gave up all their utensils and promptly starved to death as they had nothing to cook stuff in. They were told it was for military purposes, but Chairman Mao just wanted less population. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s99sdp Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 Wow, just misspelling and calling my buggy a can has taken us down this road (see what I did there?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, JohnD said: You're thinking of the Mosquito, doug, the Wooden Wonder, faster than a Spitfire! Especially with that extra Spitfire engine. Edited September 17, 2019 by daverclasper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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