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Last of the Summer Wine Herald


Gary Flinn

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The problem with those cars, as Graham (Hunt, the owner of another one and forum poster) no doubt finds: you go to numerous shows and find someone with a red convertible advertised as the Thora Hird car just as you get blue Anglias which are now the Harry Potter car, or Mister Bean's Mini. You then have to argue: No, THIS is THE actual car. :)

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1 hour ago, steveo said:

Will be fitting Vitesse headlights to my Herald soon, when I sell it I can say it's a Colin Lindsay replica!

Triumph supplied their Australian assembler AMI with CKD kits for the Herald 12/50 Saloon and Coupe as standard with the Vitesse bonnet, so you could say it is a Triumph sanctioned model!

In fact after an accident in the mid 70's here in Aus my Vitesse Mk2 bonnet was slightly twisted so I sourced an Aussie 12/50, 4 headlight bonnet as a replacement, so it could be said I have a Herald 12/50 bonnet conversion on my Mk2 Vitesse??

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13 hours ago, steveo said:

Will be fitting Vitesse headlights to my Herald soon, when I sell it I can say it's a Colin Lindsay replica!

DON'T DO IT! Not a Colin Lindsay replica anyway, Gawd knows what that would look like, but a genuine Lindsay-tuned road-prepared Herald / Vitesse... game for a laugh isn't in it.

That would be like buying a racehorse and telling people it's the nag that pulled Steptoe's wagon.

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Went to look at a Landrover Defender 110 years ago that was ex Noel Edmonds, local dealer had it up at 13k, lot of money for one back then, he looked most surprised when I said it wasn't the one for me as it was a bit tatty & needed bodywork, it sold days later to some blobby fan. 

Also Edmonds is a t**t.

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Jimmy Saville's Range Rover, a white two-door version, never sold and actually got the seller a lot of hate mail and aggro.

I used to buy 'Your Classic' magazine a long time ago, then they merged with 'Classic and Sportscar', as unlikely a pairing as you'd ever see. I was looking at Heralds and other Triumphs for a few hundred quid, they were talking about Jackie Stewart's cast-offs, or the like, and talking £££££££££££££s. Talk about being made to feel socially inferior. All the ads were for 'famous cars: "This was the GT6 that raced at Le Mans in 1970 and won whatever trophy' and I'm looking at the GT6 that has sat in my garage for the last twenty years and wondering if the price was even close.

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35 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said:

they were talking about Jackie Stewart's cast-offs, or the like, and talking £££££££££££££s. Talk about being made to feel socially inferior.

I can't be doing with all that either. What gave me a boost yesterday was taking the Herald to fill up with petrol, it was on reserve, before the subsidy of 30 centimes/litre is reduced to 10 on Monday and going a bit of shopping in town. I got back to the car and there was a young lad, 10 years old maximum, with his father looking over the car. The lad was really taken by it as it had the roof down (of course) I told him the car was older than his father, the lads eyes widened as if nothing could be older than his dad. When I started the car the father said - listen it sounds very different to a modern car. I actually stalled when setting off and the father said - they don't always start like a modern car does. . .

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The 1953 Sunbeam shown above, an S7-deluxe, used as a prop for this book cover, is one of the two I now have. It's unusual because the standard factory colours for this model were either pea-green or black. As it was first registered in London, the day after the Queen's coronation, it's very probable that it was at the forefront of that BSA dealer's window display for those celebrations.

By coincidence, I also own its sister bike, a Sunbeam S8, likewise silver in colour, and with the same three-letter London registration prefix. It was first registered just a few weeks later.  In time the bike, seen above, was owned by Mike Prior - a London photographer to celebrities.  The bike was used as a prop for photographs of the Nolan Brothers, Robbie Coltrane, and Martin Glover (punk 'musician' known as 'Youth' who went on to be a successful music producer).  Martin bought the bike off Mike and used it as his daily transport around London. 

The lad I bought the bike off was a chef living in Bristol. He didn't have a motorcycle licence but still he and his girlfriend used to go off to Wales on it. He had no idea of its history but knew it as 'Princess'.  Likewise I bought it unknowing of any history but for the (unfamiliar to me) names on the buff registration document ..I bought it simply because I wanted one of this model and particularly liked the bike in silver.

Still, it is nice to know a little of the bike's unique history and of its owners. 

Pete

p.s. When I was made redundant from working with Oyster Marine (ocean-going-yacht builders) I set up in business as a specialist restorer of these post-war Sunbeams, so perhaps that little tidbit will add again to the bike's history for the future owners.  I've fully restored the bike but have yet to finish its assembly. 

 

 

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Goodness me! I think I've ridden that bike!

We were recording at Youth's Butterfly studios in the late 90s and some special bass guitar strings were needed urgently for a particular track. As he knew that I used to own a BSA, I was the only person he trusted to make the dash to the nearest Brixton music shop on his treasured Sunbeam.

However, I doubt my connection with it will influence its value.

What a funny old world!

Adrian

 

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