Colin Lindsay Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 Club filter looks like the original older type; can't tell as they only have one photo of the 'other' side. I'm not sure how necessary the spring-loaded type is, I've had the old one fitted for twenty years and no leaks. Obviously not the same filter, tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 Pretty certain all the filter conversions come from Mocal. And they have been spring type for donkeys years. A much better setup. But do check with the club if you prefer to buy from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 you dont have the breather so no problems there ive not come across a spring loaded ....just what is that for ??? i dont recognise any purpose Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRevver Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 I believe the spring loading is to cater for the fact that some of the grooves for the o-ring are not uniform depth between different engine blocks and the spring pushes the casing outwards to help seal the o-ring. From Rimmers site: "Anti Oil Pressure Delay Adaptor for Spin on Filter with revised design spring loaded centre which better tolerates any variations in engine block mating faces." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted January 12, 2021 Report Share Posted January 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, TRevver said: I believe the spring loading is to cater for the fact that some of the grooves for the o-ring are not uniform depth between different engine blocks Correct. The original design of adapter relied on a specific profile from the outer groove to the centre flat. Triumph did not design for that - the original canister has a spring loaded fitment for the filter element. The newer adapter design more closely matches what the block was designed to have fitted. That said, my Vitesse has the original type, as did my 2500S, and I've not had any trouble with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 On 12/01/2021 at 16:11, Pete Lewis said: on a mk1 you may have the early breather pipe down nr the fuel pump , if you have this you have to re route/modify it or the spin on kit wont fit made mine from plumbing fittings a rubber Hose can also work Pete Here’s mine I’m mocking up today on my spare engine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 yes makes ideas and trials easier with the engine out looks good Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 What is a good short filter for a Vitesse as it needs to clear the brake pipe 4 way fitting and brake pipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 i only ever used the club ones on the 1600 Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: i only ever used the club ones on the 1600 Pete 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Gadgetman said: What is a good short filter for a Vitesse as it needs to clear the brake pipe 4 way fitting and brake pipes. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381365090948 As supplied by westfield with their engines. Also used on Maserati.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Does any one else have this problem, the oil pressure relief valve housing gets in the way of the filter canister ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Can you not move it further down? Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 I’m pretty sure it will hit the brake 4 way fitting if I have it rotated down but won’t know till I fit it in the car. Looking at other people’s pictures, theirs seem to clear the valve housing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigolf Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Mine is angled down towards the chassis rail too, for same reason. It's currently got a Halfords HOF 200 filter on it which looks the same length as yours, but it's not fouling the brake 4 way union. Gav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 It should be ok providing it's not touching anything, as it wont move at all. Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 In the Porter & Williams restoration book (which is quite old now) they show a remote filter adaptor assembly - looks like the Mocal adaptor plate with pipe fittings taking braided oil hoses to a spin-on filter plate that can be mounted on the bulkhead or chassis rail. Much better and more flexible arrangement, but I've never found one. The single piece spin-on adaptor available now is a nightmare for the GT6 for all the reasons photographed above! Gully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 The one on my Vitesse is similar - no room to get easy access and no possibility of rotating the adapter. The GT6 still has its original canister and that's a LOT easier to service. It also has much better oil pressure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, Gully said: In the Porter & Williams restoration book (which is quite old now) they show a remote filter adaptor assembly - looks like the Mocal adaptor plate with pipe fittings taking braided oil hoses to a spin-on filter plate that can be mounted on the bulkhead or chassis rail. Much better and more flexible arrangement, but I've never found one. The single piece spin-on adaptor available now is a nightmare for the GT6 for all the reasons photographed above! Gully Plenty of oil filter remote housings and pipes, but getting the other end that fits our blocks might be harder. Haven't had any problems with the spin-on adaptor, though, I use the WIX filters and they'll fit between the chassis rails and the relief valve no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetman Posted February 21, 2021 Report Share Posted February 21, 2021 1600 breather and canister filter conversion done! I’ve about 1/4” clearance on the brake 4 way union and 1/8” on the oil pressure relief valve housing! Using a Wix WL 7074 filter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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