Pete Lewis Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Thats torn off the bit pressed into the innner bevel gear from a seizure in the cable or the speedo head If youmcan get the core plub out the knner gear will drop out , you can then look to see it can be reattached May be a piece of copper 6mm tube will fit the gear and you, can solder the square drive into it ????? Nothing to loose with a try The square end faces the gearbox drive , the torn off iinto the angle drive if the end is spinning grip it on the spiral wound casing, give it a couple of turns Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 It's not just this then? https://caterhamparts.co.uk/clutch-cables/2443-quill-angle-drive-square-end.html?search_query=speedo+quill&results=29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Is it this bit I need to get out? Looks very happy there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 This drive seems to be used on every british car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 There are some detailed repair instructions in this thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 43 minutes ago, KevinR said: There are some detailed repair instructions in this thread Fab! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 To Reply to your happy plug yes a nice careful tap on the end that broken will pop the cap out and then you can see how the caterham listed part is fixed into the small gear wheel (thats a good find) Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 my end cap wouldn't come out with tapping tother end so drilled a tiny hole at edge of cap and levered out. I think the bit that has broken is also a square fit into drive from memory?. Some folk have cut a section of an old cable (a thin cutting disk should give a clean cut) and used that (welded/araldite) into place. I didn't have old cable and an original, second hand came up for a tenner (usually go for around £20) on Ebay so used that. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 Only just noticed the Cateram part link . Look like the square ends are offset. Maybe a reason?. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 On 9/4/2018 at 7:39 PM, daverclasper said: Only just noticed the Cateram part link . Look like the square ends are offset. Maybe a reason?. Dave I've ordered one, i'll let you know how it fits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 Thats just the photo telling tales . Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Well it arrived very quickly, but I think it's too small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 Paula the round end fits into a crimped on metal tube thats a light press fit in the gear wheel this need careful removal from the short cable end and re fixing (araldite ?) of it will just spin in the tube , there are evolutions of this drive over the years so they can have internal differences Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 So half a mill shouldn't matter in the gearbox end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 I wouldnt think so, the biggest job is getting the other end into the gear wheel If the square is not locating enpugh to make the pinion drive you can get it very clean and solder some thickness on . Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 I think my best bet is to stick the old one back in again as the new Caterham 'quill' is also shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 Yes its a lot shorter, Makes you wonder why?? JB is good stuff, there is still a small tube end insde the gear if youre going to bond the old drive into the gear getting this out is not really needed Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 I’ve got that bit out. I’m going to crimp it and glue it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 I've reassembled with JB Kwik and locktite 638 around the collet. You'd be amazed what you have knocking around a 120 year old theatre workshop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 thats it .. looking good I think you will have a success , I make the assmbled length of a good one approx 48mm end to end Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: thats it .. looking good I think you will have a success , I make the assmbled length of a good one approx 48mm end to end Pete Fingers Crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Well, the old speedo drive had basically fallen to bits. The quill bit was still stuck perfectly into the small gear though, so i reused that instead of my glued one, so a quick rebuild and it all works great. I did cut a hole out of the tunnel cover though. For next time! All sealed up with duct tape and it's lovely and quiet inside now. I even gave the top of the cover a respray. Spent the rest of the day changing all the hoses for new and changing the coolant for 4 Life stuff. Thought i might as well as it's pretty much the same price as regular coolant via the club shop. In the process of refitting the speedo cable into the back of the speedo i found the reason the flashers were not working and re connected the wire. So now the only thing that's not working on the car is the indicator doesn't cancel in one direction (i forget which). So close to 100%!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 theres no stopping you well done . pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted October 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 Any experience with non canceling indicators? I'm struggling to find a drawing. Even in the workshop manual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 There's a clip on the column that provides a bump, which acts on a pair of sprung levers on the switch mechanism. You can see the levers on item 19 in this image and the clip is 4A in this: Complete failure to cancel is normall the clip missing Cancelling in the wrong place is normally column alignment (undo the bottom coupling, slide the inner column up, rotate to the right place, refit at the bottom, then remove the steering wheel and refit in the right position) It's not unknown for one of the levers to stick, break or be missing. That gives self-cancelling one way but not the other. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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