Pete Lewis Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 If you only did 300mtrs on choke yes everything will be sooty after a choke start up it takes a good few miles of hot running to burn the soot off so yes give him a blast for 30 minutes then after a steady cruise then check a plug if you feel you need to Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 If BP5ES (heat-range 5) are getting black/oily then going up to a colder plug (6 heat-range) is going the wrong way! If you were complaining of blasted looking electrodes or persistent pinking under load then going up to 6 might have some merit..... Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Hello Nick, How's it going ?? That's a good point re hot and cold choice. Interestingly (well for me anyway !!) I have looked at the NGK listing and the following information is given: Vitesse 1.6 (62-65) = B6ES Vitesse 2.0 (66-71) - BP5ES This of course assumes that the car is running as factory spec and certainly not electronic. Ideally, I should be running a "5" plug in my Mk2 Vitesse but as stated I'm running a set of "6" plugs and touch wood no issues to date - I am certain that is the only type plug I have used. The "P" in the NGK code, as you probably know, is for a protruded nose which lends itself to a better burn with certain combustion chamber shaping. As you say a hotter plug may assist, but I guess that is only treating the symptom rather than addressing the cause of the oily plugs. Pete's point about an "Italian Tune-Up" is prudent and assessing the plugs afterwards will give a better picture; hopefully they will all look the same within reason rather than any one plug or plugs being noticeably different which will confirm an issue for certain. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted December 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 I'll pull a plug out when i get a chance and get a photo. But i remember it being wet with oil. I did smell the exhaust (in sainsbury's car park and got some funny looks) Smelt good to me. I gave him a good rev too and no smoke. He's running lovely as well. Someone put this on my 'desk' at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Oooo! Colour tune. I've got one, they work. But a bit difficult to see when using it on the drive, however a blanket over you and the plug does the job. Take care not to get the blanket caught in the fan belt, could turn out badly. New one £30 on Fleabay, Colour tune, not blanket. Doug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 And never try to pick up the hot colour tune without gloves, best to use the holder/extention tube, they dont need to be screwed in tight The plug has no real insulation and it gets so hot it will stick to your fingers and yoy get a serious Ouch!! Only good for idle settings dont drive with it installed Dougs clue about a blanket or old coat gets funny looks but getting a good sight down the tube is not always easy and in daylight might not show well , We now have visions of bonnet up and blanket over !!!! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted December 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 I love these images! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyb Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 The trick I have used is get a long inner cardboard tube from a paper roll and place that over the Colortune plug with the wire coming out through a hole in the side. You can then look down the end of the tube and see the true colour without sunlight making it difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 Now everyone with a colour tune is rushing to use up the Loo paper Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted December 14, 2018 Report Share Posted December 14, 2018 I thought we were not to go down that route again................. Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 blame danny !!! new years resolution , reduce thread drift , and bodily functions , and medical deficiencies, including senior moments but who keeps NYR anyway Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 I hate new year..... So i might as well break my NYR now During my check-up I asked the Doctor, "Do you think I'll live a long and healthy life then?" He replied, "I doubt it somehow. Mercury is in Uranus right now." I said, "I don't go in for any of that astrology nonsense." He replied, "Neither do I. But my thermometer just broke." 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: but who keeps NYR anyway Pete I do. I keep them locked up in a drawer out of harms way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 26 minutes ago, poppyman said: I hate new year..... So i might as well break my NYR now During my check-up I asked the Doctor, "Do you think I'll live a long and healthy life then?" He replied, "I doubt it somehow. Mercury is in Uranus right now." I said, "I don't go in for any of that astrology nonsense." He replied, "Neither do I. But my thermometer just broke." Reminds me of the one where I asked the doctor to sign a sheet for me, and he pulled out a thermometer and tried to write with that. "You know that's a thermometer?" I asked him. "Dammit!" he said. "Some bums got my pen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 anal jokes again .........we must try harder , mustnt we !!! or Feargal will disappear into a drifter thread like all the others Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted December 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Well i got around to changing the plugs. Here's one of the ones that came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 That does'nt look to bad really Paula. Had you started the car up before hand or had a short run? The plug itself looks ok and would be servicable with a clean If that was after a long run? i would say it is running a bit rich. Tony. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Short runs will coke up the plugs, due to cold running, choke, and oiling from cold rings. Best assessment, as poppyman implies, is to take it for a good fast, hard run, an "Italian tune up"! Lots of high revs, against a load. Then, cut the engine at the ignition, somewhere you can coast to a halt, then get out your plug spanner and inspect them while still hot - so take gloves with as well! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted December 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Oh i like the idea of the Italian Tune up! I've got a trip from London to Brighton coming up soon. Perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) Is that a bit of a brown tinge mixed with the soot in the plug colour?. No 2 and 5 plugs also can also run a bit richer. My plugs are a bit browner than that plus some soot, when I slow move/idle around the city I live, though go a grey colour (apparently modern fuels give this colour?), with no soot on a run. Dave Edited December 18, 2018 by daverclasper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Well the 'Italian tune up' worked a treat.. Running lovely now. If i had any issue it would be that it's idling a little high. Around 1000rpm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 quick small turn of each carb idle screw should drop it a few 100. Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 In other news. I've had to replace my clarion stereo after only 2 years as it stopped making noise. I decided to spend a bit of extra cash and get a Classic Car Stereo Vintage 100 DAB replacement. I also ordered the DAB Adapter module so i could use my existing aerial. It all went in easy enough, and was receiving DAB before i even plugged the aerial in. When i wired the adapter up (one red live wire and one black ground) It cut the sound off. I rang Classic car Stereo and got to speak to someone straight away, which was nice. He said he'd heard of this issue and i needed to just disconnect the red power wire. I did this and it started to work again. I went for a drive and the reception isn't very good at all. It cuts out completely when i start to leave London and only re appeared once i was well within Brighton. I've ordered a new aerial as my old one is a bit stiff and the signal wire has been cut and twisted together by the PO. Hopefully that will improve things. Anyone else have experience of these or similar units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: quick small turn of each carb idle screw should drop it a few 100. Pete Will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Surely, Paula, a DAB should automatically tune to the best reception for your chosen station? Maybe another word with those nice people at Classic Car Stereo? Anyway, Bangin' chunes to you! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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