Ben Venis Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 I seem to be having trouble with wet floor pans in my Herald 13/60 saloon, the floors in the front are both completely saturated, I have removed the drain plugs to help drain the floors but can't seem to figure out where the water is coming in? Help would be much appreciated as fairly new to owning her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulzerman Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Hi Ben I would check all door seals and A post seals are intact. Check for corrosion on A post gutter, water can enter here and run inside A post.. Check plastic curtain inside door is in place , should be attached to bottom of window inside door. Check all grommets in bulkhead are sealed. Good luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Other odd culprits, Check strap seals Courtesy switches Hinge gaskets Screen sealing Wiper wheel box to body sealing and screenwsah jets Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Hello Ben, Another common culprit is the bottom of each window corner, where water tends to pool. If the seal is not sealed here properly, then water will make its way through and run down the A posts / panels. Have you driven the car in the rain to ascertain if the windscreen is sealed against the rubber properly ?? It will not take long before water seeps through and you should be able to see that by looking at each of the corners where the dash is. The other aspects flagged above are suspects, however I get the impression you are getting a lot of water in the car so there must be a significant leak somewhere. It will be worth getting one of those dehumidifiers that you can put in the microwave to dry out and reuse, in fact the club shop sells them and on offer very recently. I would also suggest removing all the carpets until you have identified the issue, they will take a long time time to dry out properly and may already be past the point that the damp smell is fixed in to the fabric which is very difficult to eradicate fully. Good luck. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Hi Ben, The trick i used to use for finding water leaks, is to spray talcum powder (dont use the wife's best stuff) all around every where. The water will leave a trail in the powder and lead you to the leak Plus it makes the car smell nice as well. One place that can be a problem is the behind the door cards if the membrane has been removed so put some talc around the bottom of these as well. As above Good luck, But the talc trick should sort it. Tony. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Have you checked the bulk head for leaks. My major leak in my vitesse was the steering column . The rubber gasket had perished and when it rained the water would drip onto my feet and of course I couldn’t move them out of the way. Changing the rubber gasket was an easy job Pailm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 And the elephant in the room that no one has mentioned, the windscreen rubber seal, a bugger to fix! Doug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Just to add - Brake and Clutch pedals covers/boots on the top of the bulkhead. If water is coming in through the door cards has the shower curtain still present in the doors. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Hi. Richard, when you say corners of window, where it pools. Is this the windscreen, or somewhere else please?. Thanks, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 hours ago, dougbgt6 said: And the elephant in the room that no one has mentioned, the windscreen rubber seal, a bugger to fix! Hello Dave, Apologies, not clear in my last thread. I was indeed referring to the windscreen seal where it curves at the bottom on each corner, it tends to pool here. Doug has clarified the point. You can get away, sometimes, by injecting silicon sealant in to the windscreen rubber seal at the leak point. But in the long run the only safe option is to replace it with a new one [rubber seal] and ensure that there is silicone in the gap all the way around prior to fitting the glass in to the seal, that way it compresses properly and spreads evenly ensuring a watertight seal. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Seem to recall one of the GT6 contingent on here having an issue with water ingress via the heater: bonnet intake to footwell vents. Not sure if the Herald may suffer similarly? Gully 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 yes thats a good call , there is a flap that sort of seals the drain hole in the heater air box( plenum) on a herald its down below the heater motor by the side of the battery, these get clogged with old leaves and debris and heavy rain down the intake all overflows and spills ouf of the heater outlets , this can be a lot of water in a torrent pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Venis Posted December 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Thanks for the replies everyone, seems i have some investigating to get up to over the weekend, will get back with pictures and the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordfunker Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Also worth checking for corrosion around the front of the foot wells where the bulkhead mounts to the chassis. I found some fairly substantial holes in mine which would probably have leaked like a sieve when driven through a puddles or on a wet road. Karl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 Another good call, back in the happy days of 1965 I had 1959 948 Herald, it had no floor or body mounts under the front of the A posts Whole car 6yr old was rotten Tell tail is muddy water if its road water ,......... clean if its rain Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 Or yellow, if the brakes have failed. db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 56 minutes ago, dougbgt6 said: Or yellow, if the brakes have failed. db It could also be brown if the brakes have failed! Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 personal plumbing solutions range from Tablets . Pads or Milk bottles !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Venis Posted December 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 Turns out the water is coming through the tops of the pedals, what would be the best remedy for this? 😁, thanks for the help aswell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 First check the water is not coming through the throttle cable grommet and the bolts holding the pedal boxes in place or any other bolts on the bulkhead. Then check the pedal boots/covers for cracks and they are seated correctly in the grooves in the bulkhead. If they both look in good condition and are seated correctly then used some sealer where they fit, grooves, into the bulkhead. It maybe you need to replace the pedal covers/boots. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 need to ask ....why is the baulkhead so saturated ???? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 Wondering that myself. Very heavy rain flooding into the slightly raised grill section of the shelf behind the top bonnet seal, then running down inside, onto the bulkhead?. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 The water maybe directly from a hose ? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 54 minutes ago, dave.vitesse said: The water maybe directly from a hose ? Dave Good point! Maybe just over-enthusiastic cleaning? As has been posted new pedal boots and a little bit of sealant will cure most of it, but it will find its' way in anywhere at all if given the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 Are the drain slots in the lower screen baulkhead gutter clear ??? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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