Clive Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 and with ECP you have a huge advantage in that (a) you can reserve/pickup locally, and (b) more importantly IF the battery fails it is easy to take back. Sending a battery back via mail order sounds incredibly difficult and likely that the seller will then say it isn't a fault covered....(he says cynically) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 In reality I bet the number of warranty claims are miniscule as the manufacturers know pretty well how long the battery is going to last (usually just outside the warranty period), then I believe its got to be complete failure as opposed to just slow engine turn over and finally the owner has to find the original receipt after up to 5 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 I always put the battery receipt in a polythene bag and leave behind the battery Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 not a bad idea Paul. Have you ever made a successful battery replacement claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 The 057 is another option. It is slightly higher and you may need slightly longer securing rods. But the terminals are the correct way around and has a slightly higher cranking current. I have a couple and they are now both over seven years old and still going strong. Maybe not a good thing to say! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Yes I have claimed and no issues . It was with a Mondeo . The battery was supplied and fitted by the garage with a 3 year warranty, the battery failed at 2 yrs 10 months Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 I have claimed against a Halfords battery (it got slow, but to be fair it did get fully discharged several times so I was surprised the replaced it! I think thesedays a clever tester would say NO). Also had a Bosch one fail at 4 1/2 years, and took it back. Issued a "credit note" thing as the shop had to send it back to be checked. So I paid for a new one, and if it was faulty I got my money back. Shortly after the shop went into administration. Money lost... But batteries do fail more often than you may think. MIL had one fail after 18 months on her Honda. Replaced by the garage with no hassle. But mail order? Whole different level of grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Foster Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Good recent experience with Exide, less so with Yuasa. My GT6 now has a Hi Torque starter jobbie, so suspect this requires less juice than the original Lucas (others will confirm). I do recall back in the late 1970s when I first had the car, that slow cranking was not battery or charging circuit related, just a poor earth connection between engine and battery. The original arrangement is engine to body and body to battery which gives multiple opportunities for a poor connection, which causes resistance and voltage drop. Adding a second strap from engine to battery was just like someone adding another battery. Problem solved so check those connections ! Ian F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 I’ve added a second strap from the battery to the starter plus added a Hi Torque Starter from the Club Shop. One of the best investments I’ve made Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 The Lucas battery type numbers given in the 1970's for most Triumph's including the small chassis cars were 015 and 038. Unipart GBA3015, this was when Unipart was part of BL so makers part number. If I remember originally the 015 was termed a heavy duty version of the 038 i.e. higher capacity. The originals did work well but most of us now go for a higher capacity battery because these days we use more electrical power. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 50 minutes ago, clive said: But mail order? Whole different level of grief. Works for me and mine. We've had no problems so far, but the depot's not far away if there were a problem. I notice Amazon sell car batteries now, I do hope they're delivered by drone, can't wait to see that. I've had two batteries suffer internal wiring failure, joint not properly made, gas, spark, BANG! Last time was on Peugeot 306 battery under the bonnet, so just unfortunate.The first was in my old Mini Traveller, battery under the rear set, now that really did surprise my passengers! db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Ian Foster said: Good recent experience with Exide, less so with Yuasa. My GT6 now has a Hi Torque starter jobbie, so suspect this requires less juice than the original Lucas (others will confirm). I do recall back in the late 1970s when I first had the car, that slow cranking was not battery or charging circuit related, just a poor earth connection between engine and battery. The original arrangement is engine to body and body to battery which gives multiple opportunities for a poor connection, which causes resistance and voltage drop. Adding a second strap from engine to battery was just like someone adding another battery. Problem solved so check those connections ! Ian F As I understand it car batteries internally have ~2v cells connected in parallel and series to give current and voltage respectively. Then if a connection or cell fails you can still have an overall good normal voltage but on starting it drops excessively so giving slow cranking. Of course, as said, it can also be down to poor cable connections/resistance but on modern stuff that is less likely. Many times I have detected the battery deteriorating on my everyday cars by a slowing in start up and then subsequently leave it until it fails completely giving me loads of problems! Theres that advice about making sure youre never exposed to a battery during starting because of the risk of an internal short and explosive release of acid but Ive never known anyone whose experienced it so wonder if its another of the many urban myths...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 51 minutes ago, johny said: Theres that advice about making sure youre never exposed to a battery during starting because of the risk of an internal short and explosive release of acid but Ive never known anyone whose experienced it so wonder if its another of the many urban myths...… 3 hours ago, dougbgt6 said: I've had two batteries suffer internal wiring failure, joint not properly made, gas, spark, BANG! Last time was on Peugeot 306 battery under the bonnet, so just unfortunate. The first was in my old Mini Traveller, battery under the rear set, now that really did surprise my passengers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilF Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 I found that cranking the engine was getting slower. Checked the timing and adjusted it to what it should have been, and now starting is so much better. It is ever so cold out there, so every little bit helps! NeilF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 hours ago, dougbgt6 said: Works for me and mine. We've had no problems so far, but the depot's not far away if there were a problem. I notice Amazon sell car batteries now, I do hope they're delivered by drone, can't wait to see that. I've had two batteries suffer internal wiring failure, joint not properly made, gas, spark, BANG! Last time was on Peugeot 306 battery under the bonnet, so just unfortunate.The first was in my old Mini Traveller, battery under the rear set, now that really did surprise my passengers! db What casing ruptured and acid sprayed out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Johny, Ruptured implies a minor occurrence, in fact it was an explosion and one end of the battery was blown clean off! Both times. So acid everywhere, the smell was also pretty gross. It was more difficult to clean the Mini carpet and seat underside than the 306 battery compartment. The Mini battery was a couple of weeks old and once the seller saw the damaged battery they were very keen to take it off my hands and give me a new one. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 ha, no in my book a ruptured battery case implies a major occurence and an exploded one a disaster! Where these recent events? If so I think there should be a warning in the engine bay..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Johny, The Mini was 45 years ago, the Peugeot 10. 35 year between incidents, so I don't think I'll see another! Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 When jump starting anything in the future I'll definitely be keeping out of the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 I have a Halfords “3 year” 063 battery date stamped mid 2004. It still works though has recently been relegated to garage spare/test battery as not quite what it was. I got it used from a scrapyard at about 2 years old and it has mostly been in the Vitesse since. Does get trickle charged from time to time which is meant to help. Sparks around the terminals of a battery that has been working hard are bad news. Very scary and dangerous if they blow up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 as a science monitor at school , we joined up a load od glass 2v accumalators and were berning names in tin plate to make badges been on charge all night and the discharge gave just the right mix for disaster kaboom!!!!! . terminals stuck into the ceiling panels acid all over the floor and the only thing to save me from serious glass ingress was the metal banded strap/carry handle about 6 of these in series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 ah they were happy days werent they before Health n Safety and Risk Assessments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham C Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 With regards to battery warranty, yesterday the landrover battery failed after just two year, no problem life time guarantee from halford, I purchase this expensive battery as the LR will not be sold. So I thought never need to buy another battery ever again for the LR, no chance Halford have stop selling that battery so had to take a 5 year battery. Never seems to work for me. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 hmmm usually the warranty on the free replacement battery is only for long as the original was going to last but in your case dont know how that would work...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Unipart made the mistake of selling batteries with lifetime warranties, when they realised that lots of owners of classic cars had purchased them they bought out the warranty by supplying a new battery and refunding the original purchase price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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