Pete Lewis Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 one could say leave the uj till you get any knocking from it ,( yes thats a bit late but) some rotation of cups is going to happen as they are only a light (supposed) press fit so during rotation some cap rotation is not that unusual rattling good fit is a def no no the drive shaft uj must not have any lift /float in the Cross pin which is the killer a new uj cup may still be free to turn depends on the state of the yoke size and fit criteria any lift can be cured cheaply with thicker circlips available form places like canley classics Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avivalasvegas Posted December 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 There is definitely some knocking/ shuddering emanating from the rear. I've left sorting it to Dale's wisdom. The MED short stubs have arrived and my oh my they are well made and...pretty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avivalasvegas Posted December 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Anyone installed a magnetic drain plug on your Triumph? I've done so on every other Classic I own as a precaution but thought I'd check with the community first. If so, a purchase link would be very welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 Yes, I use a gearbox drain plug. Doesn't get much debris though. (unlike te gearbox, which does collect swarf, but has no filter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 I have a magnetic sump plug on one of mine but it's not the one I bought from one of the usual suppliers as that didn't fit. It only picked up a tiny amount over the last oil change interval despite the engine being quite elderly (all right, it hasn't done that many miles in the 30 years since it was rebuilt but it wasn't a full works rebuild, just a new crank and bearings). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 or just clamp a magnet to the side of the filter Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Clark Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: or just clamp a magnet to the side of the filter Pete Yes, but it's nice to be able to see what the magnet collected on the sump plug... Or is it? Perhaps ignorance is bliss, like not having an oil pressure gauge! Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 33 minutes ago, Nigel Clark said: Yes, but it's nice to be able to see what the magnet collected on the sump plug... Or is it? Perhaps ignorance is bliss, like not having an oil pressure gauge! Nigel You can always cut the filter open during the oil change. A large speaker magnet taped to the side of the oil filter can collect an amazing amount of particles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Colin Lindsay said: You can always cut the filter open during the oil change. A large speaker magnet taped to the side of the oil filter can collect an amazing amount of particles. Be very careful to make sure that the magnet doesn't detach before removing the filter. Allowing a large mass of iron and steel particles to suddenly rush through the engine will do it no good at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, KevinR said: Be very careful to make sure that the magnet doesn't detach before removing the filter. Allowing a large mass of iron and steel particles to suddenly rush through the engine will do it no good at all. Shouldn't happen if the engine isn't running; the filter should retain the oil unless it's not anti-drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 there used to be magnetic sleeve/tube sold to fit on filters flea bay sells loose magnets for outside fitting and theres lots of magnetic filters for more modern cars but not found the sleeve Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Haven't been able to find any Uk-based this morning; I remember straps that fitted round the filter to ring it with magnets. You can buy horrendously expensive versions called Filtermag or Aeromag, some of which claim they improve fuel economy too. Cheaper ones are by AliExpress or Powermag but all seem to be USA based these days. I also found an interesting magnetic pre-filter that sandwiches between the block and the filter but good luck finding a thread that will fit Triumphs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Colin Lindsay said: Haven't been able to find any Uk-based this morning; I remember straps that fitted round the filter to ring it with magnets. You can buy horrendously expensive versions called Filtermag or Aeromag, some of which claim they improve fuel economy too. Cheaper ones are by AliExpress or Powermag but all seem to be USA based these days. I also found an interesting magnetic pre-filter that sandwiches between the block and the filter but good luck finding a thread that will fit Triumphs. https://www.agriemach.com/c436-automotive/c46-filtermag-see-special-offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Kevin, they are a tad expensive to offset paranoia Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: Kevin, they are a tad expensive to offset paranoia Pete Yep; old speaker magnet and Gorilla tape works for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 But if steel/iron bits gets to the oil filter, they will have been through the pump, and then will be caught by the filter? I don't see the advanage. I can if the magnet is in the sump, stopping stuff get to the pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, clive said: But if steel/iron bits gets to the oil filter, they will have been through the pump, and then will be caught by the filter? I don't see the advanage. I can if the magnet is in the sump, stopping stuff get to the pump. Logically then that would then be the same with any debris caught by the filter, if it must go through the pump prior to the filter; whilst not a perfect system, at the very least it stops debris going round twice, and as with the sump plug, it can be cleaned or thrown away at every oil change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 so then old speaker magnet on the sump it is !!! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: so then old speaker magnet on the sump it is !!! Pete For anyone living here in NI that remembers the last few decades, finding a speaker magnet on the underside of your car meant the UCBT had dropped off somewhere along the road... 😮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avivalasvegas Posted December 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 The main challenge I seem to be facing is finding the right sized magnetic drain plugs. Rimmer Bros sells one but I have no way of knowing it is the right size for the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, avivalasvegas said: The main challenge I seem to be facing is finding the right sized magnetic drain plugs. Rimmer Bros sells one but I have no way of knowing it is the right size for the car. If you can find one, the magnetic plug out of a Triumph gearbox is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 many mag plugs are hex headed straight threaded and rely on a washer to seal you can end up with a leak as the sump is designed to take a tapered plug which is self sealing , fit a faced hex plug the washer needs a face to seal against , it wont work that well on many of our sumps as the threaded collar is not faced that well . Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Pete Lewis said: many mag plugs are hex headed straight threaded and rely on a washer to seal you can end up with a leak as the sump is designed to take a tapered plug which is self sealing , fit a faced hex plug the washer needs a face to seal against , it wont work that well on many of our sumps as the threaded collar is not faced that well . Pete Pete, used them on several engines, no issues/leaks. No PTFE tape or sealer either. The thread in the sump feels a bit tapered, no idea if that is the case. But they do work together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 I have a magnetic plug, I had always assumed it was original, I think it is tapered. It has disappointingly little debris, even when my ex ran 20 miles with no oil, resulting in a re-bore and re-grind. So, it's just like gauges, something else to worry about. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted December 4, 2020 Report Share Posted December 4, 2020 Some time go on the Forum there was a discussion (thread) re sump plug thread (might have been gearbox?) and some aftermarket plugs were the incorrect threads ie UNF, BSP or NPT, two of those have the same TPI but different thread profiles, so make sure any magnetic plug you purchase is compatible. Over the years I've collected many Triumph sq headed sump plugs and as a Covid job I installed think there called rare earth magnet ie a small round magnets into the end by drilling a hole in the end of the plug and pressing the magnet in, haven't used them yet! Eon's ago I purchased around 30 magnetic sump plugs from a UK cottage industry supplier for my then Aust Triumph Car Club regalia stock, at our annual combined Triumph Concour club stand they sold out in under an hour, the TR6 brigade went loopy over them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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