Wagger Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, chrishawley said: As per photo (ok, that's a spit but same principle) I'd add a caution: which is to ensure that the nyloc nut is fully removed before jumping the taper out. An annoying situation to be in is to partially undo the nyloc, then jump the taper and then find that the the nyloc is seized on the lower, rusty, portion of the threads. Removal can then become quite destructive. Wagger beat me to it on the refiiting tip of using a nice clean, loose running, plain nut to draw/lock the taper together. Then nyloc and not forgetting washer. Yup, I've had that happen too. AND I have bruised the thread with the nut removed and caused myself grief when re-fitting. Luckily, I have some thread files. Nice pictures. I dare not show mine as the whole thing is 'As original' with fifty years of surface corrosion apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagger Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Iain T said: A name from the past! An engineering company on the industrial estate I worked had one. Gone now the same as Asquith Butler etc etc No, just checked both are still going but only refurb and maintenance no new machines. 'Hardinge' is another one. In 1992 I worked for two guys who were stripping factories and Schools of machinery. I converted them from 3 to single phase for resale to the likes of 'Us'. Why did I not buy some for me? Shapers, Mills, drills and lathes would have beena mere £2k total. The 'Markup' was abot 70% after I'd done the conversions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 Long ago I spent a morning thumping a ball joint that wouldn't let go. I went indoors thinking "There must be a tool for this" I searched the Interweb and found one on Ebay. Then I thought "BUGGER! I've got one of those!" Out to the garage, opened the drawer, there it was. Doug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 46 minutes ago, Wagger said: 'Hardinge' is another one Wagger, they are American and still trading. In 2018 they transferred their turning and milling manufacturing from Taiwan back to the USA. Colchester, Harrison are now badge names in 600 Group range of machines. I remember going to Butlers in the 90's when looking to buy a 3m cnc mill. I then went to Mecof in Italy who were technically years ahead. A shame. I also bought a 5m mill....from Anayak based in North Spain. Sorry for thread drift..... Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 Memories?. DSG, Lang, Colchester, Harrison, All long gone or been "absorbed". Worked on them all as aprentice and Journeyman, on the Maintenance Gang, before exiting "stage left" into the M-N. British Machine tool makers, where (sadly) a victim of the same issues which beset UK Motorcycle makers, and in my case Excavator Manufacturers. Too expensive and behind the times in most cases. I have a Drummond lathe on my Bench (1944), rescued from a Dairy in Somerset that closed, bought for pennies as "scrap". I`m ashamed to say it really needs a good coat of TLC. Maybe one day?. I have a 13/60 to finish first! (more thread drift). The old "two hammers" trick works too. A simultaneoues "crack" on both sides of the arm. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 53 minutes ago, PeteH said: Machine tool makers, where (sadly) a victim of the same issues which beset UK Motorcycle makers Very true, around Keighley there were many good machine manufacturers that for various reasons just fell by the wayside. DSG were the 'Rolls Royce' of lathes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagger Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 hours ago, chrishawley said: As per photo (ok, that's a spit but same principle) I'd add a caution: which is to ensure that the nyloc nut is fully removed before jumping the taper out. An annoying situation to be in is to partially undo the nyloc, then jump the taper and then find that the the nyloc is seized on the lower, rusty, portion of the threads. Removal can then become quite destructive. Wagger beat me to it on the refiiting tip of using a nice clean, loose running, plain nut to draw/lock the taper together. Then nyloc and not forgetting washer. There was a naughty cartoon on the Training School wall. A matchstick figure of a Nut with legs being chased by a bolt with legs (Not Usain, luckily for the Nut). The Nut was screaming 'No, not without a washer'. These things are never forgotten. Today's apprentices may never see this or 'Run Off You Great Big Idiot Violet' for the colour spectrum. I will not repeat the words for the resistor colour code. BBROYGBVGW. Even the clean version is considered politically incorrect, 'Dammit'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagger Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, PeteH said: Memories?. DSG, Lang, Colchester, Harrison, All long gone or been "absorbed". Worked on them all as aprentice and Journeyman, on the Maintenance Gang, before exiting "stage left" into the M-N. British Machine tool makers, where (sadly) a victim of the same issues which beset UK Motorcycle makers, and in my case Excavator Manufacturers. Too expensive and behind the times in most cases. I have a Drummond lathe on my Bench (1944), rescued from a Dairy in Somerset that closed, bought for pennies as "scrap". I`m ashamed to say it really needs a good coat of TLC. Maybe one day?. I have a 13/60 to finish first! (more thread drift). The old "two hammers" trick works too. A simultaneoues "crack" on both sides of the arm. Pete There is a 'Two brick' version of this for another process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratton Jimmer Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, Wagger said: BBROYGBVGW. Even the clean version is considered politically incorrect, 'Dammit'. In the RAF the mnemonic used was Betty Brown Runs Over Your Garden But Violet Grey Walks. As for the rainbow, we were taught Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagger Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Stratton Jimmer said: In the RAF the mnemonic used was Betty Brown Runs Over Your Garden But Violet Grey Walks. As for the rainbow, we were taught Richard Of York Gave Battle In Vain. Not quite so memorable, but good and clean. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratton Jimmer Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, Wagger said: Not quite so memorable, but good and clean. Thanks. I do know the naughty version which was commonly used by erks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim-GT6 Posted February 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Iain T said: Sorry for thread drift..... Guys you're killing me! 😂 I haven't even taken a spanner to the car yet. I'm likely to need to come back on this topic. At least to give and update on the outcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jim-GT6 said: Guys you're killing me! 😂 We don't so much drift but steer full steam in another direction....it's one of the joys of this forum! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim-GT6 Posted February 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Iain T said: We don't so much drift but steer full steam in another direction....it's one of the joys of this forum! I had that when I got the car. Turned out to be a dodgy rear shock and old tyres 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Stratton Jimmer said: In the RAF the mnemonic used was Betty Brown Runs Over Your Garden But Violet Grey Walks. The version I was taught at school was Black Beetles Running Over Your Garden Bring Very Good Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Wagger said: There was a naughty cartoon on the Training School wall. A matchstick figure of a Nut with legs being chased by a bolt with legs (Not Usain, luckily for the Nut). The Nut was screaming 'No, not without a washer'. These things are never forgotten. Today's apprentices may never see this or 'Run Off You Great Big Idiot Violet' for the colour spectrum. I will not repeat the words for the resistor colour code. BBROYGBVGW. Even the clean version is considered politically incorrect, 'Dammit'. You mean this!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 Being intrigued, I had to go in search of the "dodgy" mnemonics. perhaps the one about the bad boys is not so acceptable, The vodka one or the plans one are quite acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagger Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, Peter Truman said: You mean this!! That's the one! Well retrieved, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 there was one in the launderette Nut Screws Washer and Bolts pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagger Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 The RSPB will agree with 'Tits Like Coconuts', there are a few on our bird feeder. It is all in the punctuation, so I am told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratton Jimmer Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 22 hours ago, NonMember said: Garden Bring Very Good It sort of works but doesn't distinguish between the two "Gs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 36 minutes ago, Stratton Jimmer said: It sort of works but doesn't distinguish between the two "Gs". Well, gardens are green and "good" is one of those rather grey words. It also has three 'B's of which only one is the colour name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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