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On 07/02/2022 at 18:26, Colin Lindsay said:

Back in the day 'hubcaps' or 'nave plates' were usually well-embellished to set a car off, and plain ones were called 'poverty plates' as it was obvious the owner couldn't afford anything better...

According to Wikipedia:

"A typical ship's wheel is composed of eight cylindrical wooden spokes (though sometimes as few as six or as many as ten) shaped like balusters and all joined at a central wooden hub or nave (sometimes covered with a brass nave plate) which housed the axle. The square hole at the centre of the hub through which the axle ran is called the drive square and was often lined with a brass plate (and therefore called a brass boss, though this term was used more often to refer to a brass hub and nave plate) which was frequently etched with the name of the wheel's manufacturer. The outer rim is composed of sections each made up of stacks of three felloes, the facing felloe, the middle felloe, and the after felloe. Because each group of three felloes at one time made up a quarter of the distance around the rim, the entire outer wooden wheel was sometimes called the quadrant. Each spoke ran through the middle felloe creating a series of handles beyond the wheel's rim. One of these handles/ spokes was frequently provided with extra grooves at its tip which could be felt by a helmsman steering in the dark and used by him to determine the exact position of the rudder—this was the king spoke and when it pointed straight upward the rudder was believed to be dead straight to the hull. The completed ship's wheel and associated axle and pedestal(s) might even be taller than the person using it. The wood used in construction of this type of wheel was most often either teak or mahogany, both of which are very durable tropical hardwoods capable of surviving the effects of salt water spray and regular use without significant decomposition."

So I suppose early car wheels resembled ship's wheels and thus the centre part is called - in Britain only, mind - the nave plate.

In a church the long aisle with the spokes of the roof overhead resembled the hull of a ship, so was called the nave, from the Latin 'Navis' meaning ship.

And because English is both fascinating and frustrating, 'felloes' are pronounced 'fellies'. Why? Because we can, because we can.

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On 10/02/2022 at 12:39, Patrick Taylor said:

And because English is both fascinating and frustrating, 'felloes' are pronounced 'fellies'. Why? Because we can, because we can.

I was fascinated to find that a clematis I bought years ago called Mrs Cholmondeley was actually pronounced 'chumley'...

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3 hours ago, Colin Lindsay said:

I was fascinated to find that a clematis I bought years ago called Mrs Cholmondeley was actually pronounced 'chumley'...

According to Wikipedia Horatio Bottomley was a journalist, editor, newspaper proprietor, swindler, and Member of Parliament (no change there, then). The story is that when he visited Lord Cholmondley he asked the flunkey if he could see Lord chol-mond-ley; on being told that his lordship's name was pronounced 'chumley', Bottomley replied 'Well, tell him that Horatio Bumley is here to see him'...

Sorry for the thread drift.

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Cholmondeley, pron. "Chumley" is not an affectation of the rich, but a parish, next door to Chorley, in Cheshire.  The first noble Lord no doubt had estates there.    Thanks to the origins and vagaries of the English language, there are many other place names in Britain that are written differently to the way they are spoke.     The next valley over from Lancaster contains the village of Quernmore, pron. "Kwormer", but these changes are no Northern fancy, or even a Lancashire one, as from deepest Surrey is Guildford, pron. "Gilford", and many know Southampton as "Soton",    Happisburgh as "Haysbrugh", Hunstanton as "Hunston" and Teignmouth as "Tinmuth".   We need not get into the many examples like Worcester, Gloucester, Bicester, Leicester etc. etc. etc, that always puzzle our American cousins!   Long live the English language and Boo! to standardised spelling!

 

 

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