rozentas Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Also would be grateful for some feedback as to whether its easier to take out the transmission and engine together.........I have the bonnet off........... and put them back together rather than just take out the engine and try to marry up the engine and transmission while the transmission is still in the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rozentas Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 On 19/07/2019 at 18:36, Guppy916 said: Yes it is so easy to lift our engines out then you pop a new clutch kit in as well Is it easier to fit a new clutch with the transmission still in the car while the engine is out,? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Fitting a new clutch with the box in the car is easy enough. The only thing you are changing on the box is the bearing. The rest is attached to the engine flywheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Ive done a couple of engine outs leaving the gearbox in situ is ok like any marry up of the two alignment is the key Simple may to check the box is parallel to the engine is use a bit of timber as a gap gauge , to sight the alignment as by eye most are hopelessly out of line and you end up with a fight, get the engine and box | | in verticle and horizontal is the rules. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rozentas Posted August 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Attached are some pics of my progress to date. Grateful for any advice about cleaning up the frame once I take out the engine.............whats the best prep method for getting rid of the crud............methinks petrol and a rag......... and best paint for making sure the rust does not come back for a few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 6, 2019 Report Share Posted August 6, 2019 Ive always used Jizer , like Gunk spray brush on and wash off smells better than Gunk There are many other similar brands eg hyperclean All good at degreasing and leaves a protective film after a hose off.. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 17 hours ago, rozentas said: Is it easier to fit a new clutch with the transmission still in the car while the engine is out,? Yes, as Pete and Mark have said already, everything will be right in front of you - but while it's out, replace the pivot pin on the release arm, and the gearbox mountings. The first is a job that's a real stitch in time and the second is probably overdue if the mountings are anyway original. If you're going to all that work you might as well cover all the small jobs that may someday go wrong... check the slave cylinder too while it's accessible. Don't forget the engine earth strap under the block if you're removing the engine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark powell Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Gunk and a jet washer... and an old pair of overalls.. Steam cleaner is best, but jet washer is next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rozentas Posted August 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Don't forget the engine earth strap under the block if you're removing the engine! I have removed the braided earth cable attached to the bell housing, is that the earth strap you mean Colin or is there another one? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 you will find them (if any) when any lifting becomes troublesome they appear out of the gloom Ha ! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: you will find them (if any) when any lifting becomes troublesome they appear out of the gloom Ha ! Pete True, Pete, and Steve - there should be a small one from the front of the block to the steering rack clamps; this is the one that everyone misses until they lift the engine and the entire car lifts too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rozentas Posted August 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Before lifting the engine I thought I should remove the exhaust as it is in the way, though in the Haynes manual it does not specify to do this. The 1500 exhaust set up in the manual is nothing like what I have and to remove it I would have to undo two bolts under the gear box where the exhaust is just hanging there is no mount to the box. There does not seem to be a manifold, the exhaust just fits directly as you see from the picture. So I'd be grateful for some feedback as to whether I actually have a standard 1500 Spitfire exhaust set up. Here's a picture of what I have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Thats a fabricated tubular 4 into 2 into 1 manifold , designed to equal pipe lengths and aid extraction of exhaust gases Any improvement tends to show at higher revs. It replaces the cast original as an after market upgrade Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rozentas Posted August 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 So I guess I should leave the exhaust in situ as to undo two bolts which are not fastened to anything on a corroded exhaust wold be difficult........does that make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Yes just hold it to one side and lift around it./over it Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Steve One advantage of the non-standard exhaust not mention is that it does away with the poorly designed joint between the manifold and front pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanky Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Fascinated. Can someone tell me what's going on with this now? what's the diagnosis? It's worse than watching Morse and not seeing the final 10 minutes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rozentas Posted August 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Tanky, waiting for my engine hoist to be delivered then will have a look and let you know. I removed the bonnet, to make it easier to get the engine out, and saw that behind the cross member and bonnet supports there was a lot of rot so I thought I would cut off the cross member, cross member bracing and bonnet supports. Have ordered replacements and the problem I now have is the bracing cross members do not fit, they are far to small to wrap over the chassis to be welded on. Has anyone experience of refitting a new front to a Spitfire 1500..................what did you do about the bracing issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanky Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Hi, Thanks for the update! I'm brand new to the Spit scene so I'm in no position to help you out with tech stuff. All I can do is wish you luck and I'm sure some of the lovely people on here will continue to help you out. I'll keep my eyes peeled for updates. Cheers Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy916 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 just fully weld all the way round the new member, Just make sure the chassis is the same dim's apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rozentas Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Where this bracing bar meets the chassis is there is a lip on the top and bottom to slightly wrap over the top and bottom of the chassis or has this been cut off .............I cant see from the picture? My replacement has a lip top and bottom but it prevents the bracing bar butting up to the chassis so I think I need to cut it off Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy916 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Does this help Steve, I had to trim this to fit, then tack in place, check measurements and fully weld, on the top, bottom & the vertical face, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rozentas Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Yes thanks that’s exactly what I meant. Will cut it to fit and weld up. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy916 Posted September 3, 2019 Report Share Posted September 3, 2019 Any news yet Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 New to the Triumph scene - hoping to pick a Spitfire up later this week. I’ve read this thread with interest. It’s like a ‘whodunnit’! I have no words of wisdom but will watch from the sidelines if that’s ok. It’s amazing to see how much help is available on here for free, or for a bit of grilled bacon! Good luck with the investigations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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