Engine noise spitfire 1500

[Clive]

Crank replacement is not too difficult. If you can get the engine out, and take some care, the crank swap is no more difficult. 

But getting the engine out is the first step. Then sump off, and you can check it is the big end. Very easy to see if it is bad...

Only advice us to mark everything. So punch mark connrods and caps plus main bearing so the caps go back on exactly right (back to front is bad, wrong order bad. Likewise timing chain sprockets.

Apart from that all you need is a torque wrench and the ability not to strip the threads in the Ali parts that the sump bolts screw into...

Any triumph WSM will do, the engines are al more or less the same. Haynes manual should be fine too, I hope.

Many manuals available for free on the vitessesteve website

[Pete Lewis]

Club shop also sell triumph reprint manuals

If you mean ivor searles they do all  the   club engines and are excelent remanufactures they do a full remanufacture not just a recon

But you really need to have a looksee  first amd let us steer you  through any hoops.

Pete

[dougbgt6]

Steve,

I did my first crank replacement with no experience aided only by a Haynes manual.  It is one of the simpler engine jobs. However, earlier in the thread you did a compression test and one of the bores was lower than the rest. If the engine's coming out and the crank needs work I would be considering a re-bore. So the pennies start to mount up and a direct replacement looks more attractive. It all depends on how deep your pockets are and if you think the rest of the car is worth it.

Doug

[NonMember]

The low compression on one cylinder was not that severe. I'd not be at all surprised if a set of rings is all that one needs. It's the noise that needs sorting, which will need the engine to be stripped down but there's still a very good chance that it won't need over a grand spent on it.

[Pete Lewis]

as its sort of top ended Hugh suggested cam shaft journals    that doesnt leave much else to explore 

Pete

[Pete Lewis]

right  jumping from this and that and from where we are i guess Steve is not going to manage to do much of this without some help

I am prepared to trundle over to Aylesbury  to help examine the engine but i dont do under the car so i suggest the engine is removed and 

we convene  a time to have a strip down day might even get Doug involved  so its an open invitation to help but no groveling or drippy oil 

need engine on a bench or stand of some sort

Pete

[dougbgt6]

10 hours ago, Pete Lewis said:

but no drippy oil 

On the bacon sandwiches?

Crispy, grilled bacon, hmmmm.

OK I'm in, I'm as curious as everybody as to what this is.

Doug

[johny]

Theres a complete engine going on a well known auction site for not a lot of money but not sure the logistics tie up well....

[rozentas]

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I am going to take the engine out put it on a bench then see what’s what.  Pete and Doug have said they would be willing to have a look.........thanks a lot........will be in touch when I have it out, or have any questions not covered in the manual. Of course first I have to build is a bench and I am away for a bit so will let you know in a few weeks.

[Anglefire]

Just get an engine stand - much more versatile for an engine rebuild as you can spin it around! Granted afterwards it's not a lot of use though - but could always sell it on - infact you could just get a second hand one in the first place.

[Badwolf]

Would a black and decker workmate take the weight and also be big enough?

[Clive]

I have had engines on a workmate, but I tend to just have them on the floor thesedays. 

[Guppy916]

I bought a engine stand for £40 used it and sold for £40 , it’s so much easier , and mines a six pot 

[Sparky_Spit]

8 hours ago, Badwolf said:

Would a black and decker workmate take the weight and also be big enough?

I've had a 200cc motorcycle on a Workmate and it coped with it. I did use some ropes from the garage rafters, just in case, but they were not taking any real load.

[thescrapman]

The old Workmates with the Aloy frames are very strong, take a 4-cyl very easily.

Not sure about the modern ones.

I wouldn't trust my £10 super cheap ones with a gearbox let alone an engine.

[dougbgt6]

I did my first 6 cyl rebuild on a Workmate, I wouldn't do it now as it was a bit precarious. I would go for Guppy's solution these days.

Doug

[johny]

You're all wimps! What's wrong with the good old floor?

[Pete Lewis]

The floor used to be  fine ,, makes me knees creak and a crick in the neck getting the varifocals in focus 

Pete

 

[johny]

must admit last engine I did was on the ground but 25yrs ago🙄

[Pete Lewis]

we did lots of things on the ground till ageism demands some comfort !!!

Pete

[rlubikey]

5 hours ago, johny said:

You're all wimps! What's wrong with the good old floor?

What's wrong is the bad old knees!

Cheers, Richard

[rozentas]

Built the bench for £60.  Could have bought an engine stand.......and sold it when I’d finished with it...........but the bench will be useful for many things.  So next thing is to take out the engine.  In my research I came across a Eureka Triumph in Wales who will do an exchange engine for a grand or so v Ivor Seattle’s £1600. I’m sure you get what you pay for but has anyone used Eureka a Triumph?

steve

[Pete Lewis]

Well we have Ivor the engine, and ivor serles  whos ivor settles??

As for eureka  wasnt that when archimedies found the soap in the bath ???

Pete

 

[Colin Lindsay]

20 hours ago, Pete Lewis said:

As for eureka  wasnt that when archimedies found the soap in the bath ???

Yep; he ran naked down the street shouting "I've found it" to which all the Greek women shouted: "I'd throw it back if I were you!"

 

[rozentas]

Looking at the option re my engine.  If I strip it down and rebuild it myself........apart from any bits which have to be sent to a specialist.............would I be correct in thinking that the very least I will need to buy will be a rebuild kit which at Rimmers, for example, would cost about £500.