watsona6 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Morning. I’ve an issue with my door locks - they don’t lock.... Having read the forum, seems it’s quite common, and, common to leave them rather than fixing them. I don’t have an issue with this per say, however, how does this impact on the insurance? Thinking I’ll call them later and ask, but wondered what others have found out/think about this? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Door locks are a MOT working requirememt ie the door is securley shut and will open from the inside handle Insurance requires the car to be roadworthy so a duff latch renders it as unroadworthy just my view Pete Edit Lock changed to latch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark powell Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Lock or latch? If the door latches properly then I can't see a problem. Locking, once latched, is just security against theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Door CATCHES or door LOCKS? The door has to close securely and stay closed when pressure is applied, but as for the actual locking ie with the key (to keep others out), that wouldn't be anything for the MOT? As for Insurance... does a car kept in a home garage for example have to be locked too? On the street yes, but the driveway? No doubt they'll find some way of wriggling out of the payout, if it ever gets stolen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishmosh Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 If you mean they don’t lock. Then that’s relatively simple. The drivers push button is a simple affair to fit and adjust. The passenger side is simple engineering to adjust with little to go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishmosh Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 If you mean they don’t lock. Then that’s relatively simple. The drivers push button is a simple affair to fit and adjust. The passenger side is simple engineering to adjust with little to go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 As Watson6 doors are flying open , its def latches not the key lock security issue (in a spitfire !!!) You must be able to escape the car by the inside release amd you cant knock old ladies of a bike with a flying door And parts lists refer to the latch as a door lock Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Spits and GT6 s dont have a button its lever release and unless you cut a big hole in the carcass you cant get hands in and see what you are doing, there is the lock assy , awfull thing, the internal failing slide cam , rod clips that drop off and multiple connecting plastic blocks and clips with springs all inaccessible unless you have some sadistic views of life or can decorate the hall through the letterbox Herald or vitesse is so much simpler. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Pete Lewis said: unless you have some sadistic views of life or can decorate the hall through the letterbox Herald or vitesse is so much simpler. Pete Tentacles, Pete - tentacles. This one is known as a prosthentacle and if you know anyone with one, they'll fix your doors in a jiffy. On the other hand if you know anyone who builds ships in bottles, they'll do it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 I bought a baseball type steering lock for my vitesse from fleabay £8 or so . Works a treat looks effective in my vitesse and might have helped when I completed my insurance application noting I had one https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Strong-AntiTheft-Car-Steering-Wheel-Lock-Universal-Vehicle-Security-Baseball-Bat/283484459989?ul_ref=https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=2&pub=5575376664&toolid=10001&campid=5338268676&customid=Cj0KCQjwn_LrBRD4ARIsAFEQFKscesbTaclVFKUHlXqBa57Qn_WuwN0EJKO0xABqbGN10_SMZj4OPIAaAo4vEALw_wcB&lgeo=1&item=283484459989&srcrot=710-53481-19255-0&rvr_id=2109924870606&rvr_ts=2f4ed4a716d0a4d129373459ffb6d656&_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1&ul_noapp=true&pageci=b1fbdd46-c98a-474c-a850-39f38031c278 Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Colin. 'On the other hand' so you need to be ambidextrous as with most jobs the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing (unless your 4th dan snug Doug ) Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 I, like many others, don't lock my doors. What's the point with a soft top? One slash with the knives that we are told everyone is carrying and they're in. Crook lock style device, petrol cut off valve, battery isolator, bonnet locks. Then a pre flight check list to make sure everything is 'on' before you try to start off... oh and don't forget the burglar alarm that won't turn off when you've set it 'cause the transmitter batteries have gone flat. Yes I'm having a bad day... does it show? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Badwolf said: I, like many others, don't lock my doors. What's the point with a soft top? One slash with the knives that we are told everyone is carrying and they're in. Crook lock style device, petrol cut off valve, battery isolator, bonnet locks. Then a pre flight check list to mak sure everything is 'on' before you try to srart off... oh and don't forget the burglar alarm that won't turn off when you've set it 'cause the transmitter batteries have gone flat. Yes I'm having a bad day... does it show? How does that impact on insurance - that’s my question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 I think Pete is referring to the fact that my latch (passenger side) is faulty. In the interest of bike riders (and my young passengers) I’m going to replace the mechanism later today so that the latch works and old ladies on bikes are safe. The question is though - the actual locking mechanism on both doors doesn’t work. The key doesn’t turn. I can’t even flick the catch on the inside and lock them once in the car. I’m ok with the locks actually not working - but wondered how this leaves me from an insurance perspective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 My previous insurance specified that my Spitfire had to be locked and the roof put on when parked up - even on a petrol station forecourt! Needless to say I am no longer with them but I've not actually seen anything on the Peter James Policy to say one thing or another - but I tend to put the roof on if I am going to leave the car for a while - more in case it rains! - and I lock it and fit the steering lock. But as said, it will get knicked if anyone wants it! It is left without the roof on and unlocked when its in the garage - but that is locked with a 5lever lock on the internal door and a 5 lever (I think) lock on the steel door itself. And nearly always has another car parked on the otherside of the door on the drive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 one start is to remove the handle and take the barrel out its marked with the key numbers , bet yours does not match the keys you have been given. boot and ( glove box ?) are same key but normal for door keys to be altogether different. when you attempt to replace the latch/lock you will see what i mean about access . many get a saw and make hole BIGGER there are a number of rods and eyelet clips that fail , both on the release rods and the lock rods , then theres the plastic block which connects paired rods together hidden behind the centre panel, all exciting stuff !!!!!!!!!!! with the small plate and return springs all hidden if any have dropped off or are in the wrong position it messes it all up nicely solution ............ remove the doors or ratchet strap across the car Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 My GT6 had separate keys for the doors, another for the hatch and a 4th for the petrol cap, infuriating! I took all the barrels out and rearranged the tumblers so that one key fits all. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Thanks all! I’ve had a bit of an epic fail today. Latch swap went reasonably well but it hasn’t fixed my issue! Door still doesn’t remain shut with a medium strength shoulder nudge! I think the gap between the door/latch and the plate is too wide. Certainly wider than my correctly operating drivers side. Tried to adjust the hinges on the door but can’t bring it closer so the latch and plate get tighter. I managed to break a couple of bolts too so going to have to order a few bolts. Cannot for the life of me move the 3 screws on the plate! No doubt will end up drilling them out so I’ll order some of them too! This morning I was thinking of having a go at the UJ’s! Can’t even fix the door latch - maybe I’m running before I can walk!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 On a positive note the cigarette lighter now works! Said I was ok with electrics 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 UJs MIGHT be easier than door locks, so don't write yourself off yet. Do you have an impact screwdriver? It may shift the screws, and might end up costing you no more than replacement screws would - they're cheap enough to buy, mine was less than a tenner and a handy tool for a car where many parts have never been disturbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, watsona6 said: Thanks all! I’ve had a bit of an epic fail today. Latch swap went reasonably well but it hasn’t fixed my issue! Door still doesn’t remain shut with a medium strength shoulder nudge! I think the gap between the door/latch and the plate is too wide. Certainly wider than my correctly operating drivers side. Tried to adjust the hinges on the door but can’t bring it closer so the latch and plate get tighter. I managed to break a couple of bolts too so going to have to order a few bolts. Cannot for the life of me move the 3 screws on the plate! No doubt will end up drilling them out so I’ll order some of them too! This morning I was thinking of having a go at the UJ’s! Can’t even fix the door latch - maybe I’m running before I can walk!!! Sounds like you need one of these Andy.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heavy-Duty-13pcs-Steel-Impact-Screwdriver-Hand-Tool-Percussive-Drilling-Bits-Set/123606720139?epid=20011090037&hash=item1cc788de8b:g:63wAAOSwhQhY7Jpa Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Great minds think alike Colin...... Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watsona6 Posted September 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Thanks gents. Doesn’t look up to much that - was expecting something more substantial. Do they work well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Yes they are good, give the impact driver a Wack with a hammer and the driver bit will tighten or untighten a fraction and should remove the screw headed bolt. Don’t be put off by the price Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Very useful tool to have , Door hinge adjustment fore aft is the bolts to the baulkhead proud flush is the bolt and screw into the door I worry if the gap is excessive have the cills been bodged without controlling the door gap dimensions ??? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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