petegardner_901 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Just out of interest what opinions do you guys have on an electric power steering conversion for a GT6……? Apparently £900 all fitted… Is this a dreadful idea or would it make the car a bit more “everyday” user friendly? p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 One of East Berks has it on his Spitfire, it works very well. His car has a 2.5 straight 6 so heavy like a GT6, I don't know if that's why he fitted it? I believe it's electric and taken from a Japanese hatchback. I find the GT6 steering quite heavy when parking, but not heavy enough to contemplate power steering. However if you're after fatter tyres it might become necessary. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 A fellow club member here in Aus has fitted a Netherlands manufactured kit to his E type jag and swears by it even in city traffic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 if you like diy quite major work to get it all in place electric columns on ebay are very cheap from many different makes a column is around £100 approx then its how to fit and align it all and you need to replace or replecate the speed sensor gismo that most have built in having fitted a mechanical hydraulic P stg to the 2000 it means a far more spritly drive and if i go to fast i can park on my drive not Oops! thats next door missed it Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 My GT6 has 175/70 tyres and a miniaturised steering wheel. It's certainly heavy at parking speeds but, like Doug, I don't find it bad enough to need expensive mods. Also, if the electric one operates on the column then it's putting a lot of stress on the bottom coupling and pinion, which the hydraulic system on the saloons doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 yes even on the 2000 retro fit the TRod ends are up a size on the manual and a coresponding steering arm uprate to match the effort has to be absorbed and uprated other parts to cope with the increased strain Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 I had electric power steering fitted to my Dolomite 1850 by https://easysteer.co.uk My only regret is not having it done sooner, it made the car a pleasure to drive and park. It is adjustable as well so you choose how heavy or light you want it. I have rotator cuff ligament problems and it was either sell the car or bite the bullet. The bullet won Tony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlubikey Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) Pete, I've fitted EPS to my Spit 2.5PI. Having the Spit "quick" steering rack, the extra two cylinders makes the steering really heavy for a weed like me. I fitted the Corsa-C EPS - see this thread for more. I would say that if you find your steering heavy then it's worth considering. I think you may possibly add a hint of "vagueness" to the feel but it will deffo. make the steering lighter. Different people will have different opinions but it's down to you as to whether it's worth £900. Please note that, sadly, Picton Sportscars who did the heavy engineering on my EPS had to close their doors for the last time about 18 months ago. Cheers, Richard Edited August 15, 2021 by rlubikey Get the link to other thread right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 17 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: yes even on the 2000 retro fit the TRod ends are up a size on the manual and a coresponding steering arm uprate to match the effort has to be absorbed and uprated other parts to cope with the increased strain Pete I was thinking about this last night Pete,, surely the effort needed to turn the steering will be the same either by a strong person, wimp (me) or power assisted?? I can't really see what the difference would be. You are right about the tre's being different Though just can't think whether it was just an upgrade for the bigger rack? Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 16 hours ago, poppyman said: I have rotator cuff ligament problems and it was either sell the car or bite the bullet. The bullet won Friend with shoulder problems fitted PS to his MGC, another Dolly Parton car (heavy up front), and he swears by it. Its manually adjustable for speed sensitivity and I think from a Corsa and only cost £250. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, poppyman said: I was thinking about this last night Pete,, well the lightening of the input from 3 shreaded wheat to only one must impart more loads downstream as you can physically whip the car around with more venum so loads at the suspension and steering must go up Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: well the lightening of the input from 3 shreaded wheat to only one must impart more loads downstream I think Tony is correct unless the PS enables you to drive faster. For a given speed and change of direction PS just makes the input easier, at the mechanical end the forces are the same. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 certainly makes you drive faster whizz round roundabouts etc so yes it makes more spirited driving as its so much easier its not a 10 to 2 lug around , its a twirl and whoosh so yes more loads are in there Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: certainly makes you drive faster I'm fitting one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahebron Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 So does a car driven by a large strong person who can turn the wheel easily and quickly wear out steering components faster than a car driven by a weedy person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 I think the answer is if anything it's very minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: well the lightening of the input from 3 shreaded wheat to only one must impart more loads downstream as you can physically whip the car around with more venum so loads at the suspension and steering must go up Pete Anyone would think i was a hooligan Getting to old and knackered for that Pete Tony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 16 hours ago, rlubikey said: the extra two cylinders makes the steering really heavy for a weed like me. I can confirm that Richard is the East Berks member, more wiry than weedy, he's like a coiled spring! Must be all that bike riding. Doug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Iain T said: I think Tony is correct unless the PS enables you to drive faster. It's not a question of driving faster. That loads up the suspension parts, not the steering. If you don't have PAS, you can't turn the wheels when stationary, so you learn to rock the car a bit to allow the steering to move. If you do have PAS, you habitually swing from lock to lock when static, in between reversing and going forward, during parking manoeuvres. It's this action that puts lots of stress on steering components. ALL production cars, not just the Triumph saloons, had beefier steering bits on the PAS version, before that became the only one available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlubikey Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, dougbgt6 said: I can confirm that Richard is the East Berks member, more wiry than weedy, he's like a coiled spring! Must be all that bike riding. Doug I wish! I feel more like one of these - a broken slinky ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Hi I did this on my 13/60. About 1/2 way down Page 2 of the post. https://forum.tssc.org.uk/topic/1188-power-steering-on-a-spitfire-is-it-possible/?tab=comments#comment-9775 Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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