daverclasper Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) Hi. Not a question about the virtues (or not) of these. May have to disconnect and reconnect a few. I understand they are pushed in tightly and correspondingly take a bit of getting out? Do I need a special tool, or alternative/adapted tool etc. Cheers, Dave Edited October 1, 2021 by daverclasper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp my Vit Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Mine were soldered so pulled out easy by just tugging on the wire... But I do have a special tool for putting them back in!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishawley Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 If they are properly soldered or properly crimped then a firm pull will generally release them. There is a special 'bullet closing' tool (e.g ALT/SSC1-09) for putting them back together but 99% of the time finger pressure or blunt screwdriver will do just fine. If they break on removal then usually they were on their last legs anyway; like LUCARs, the copper corrodes, hardens and fractures at the base. Easily replaced: soldering is fine but can be a faff. Or better, use the special bullet crimp tool (e.g. ALT/SSCT1-02) dear for what it is but does produce a reliable result even in confined spaces where soldering may not be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted October 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Thanks for that. Very useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 also worth a pick Aldi crimp and terminal set £7.99 https://www.aldi.co.uk/workzone-crimping-tool-set/p/804741480099400 Contents 1 x Crimping tool 15 x 100mm Cable ties (approx.) 15 x 130mm Wire (approx.) 60 x Cable plugs 30 x Flat plugs 30 x Flat plugs sleeves 20 x Butt connector 10 x Splashproof butt connector 50 x Assorted conductor end sleeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpitFire6 Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 A non ratchet crimping tool is junk. So there. Iain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 I recently borrowed a hydraulic one esp for battery cables very impressed, at $50 locally I might invest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdv Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 HI, Not sure if this helps but a company in the UK called vehicle wiring products sell solder bullets and connectors as original. I repaired my loom using them, the only issue is the cable at the bullet end can be either oxidised or has heat damage such that it will not be able to accept the solder I cut these back to decent cable and replaced the damaged part with the same colour cable by soldering the cables together and then sleeving them with adhesive heatshrink sleeving. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed.h Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 All of the tools I looked at for inserting those bullets seemed flimsy and overpriced. My solution was to do a slight mod to a pair of "channel lock" type pliers. Ed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 How do you stop the rubber outer sleeve internal sprung tube from pushing forward in the rubber outer so the sprung tube isn't at one end of the rubber sleeve? Do you push both bullets in together to keep the inner sprung tube centralized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Peter Truman said: How do you stop the rubber outer sleeve internal sprung tube from pushing forward in the rubber outer so the sprung tube isn't at one end of the rubber sleeve? Do you push both bullets in together to keep the inner sprung tube centralized. I use a pair of bullet connector pliers, they push from both ends simultaneously and when one end meets resistance they just push the other. That way the central metal joiner shouldn't move in the sleeve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 Ripaults pliers are whats used for inserting bullets in to sleeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 I’m old culture I use a small blade screwdriver and play silly buggers to push them and then centralise the spring tube, Pete must get a Ripault plier, but I replaced all the female and male bullet parts when rebuilding both cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 ive had a pair of pliers for years have a search they are about but dont go silly money poking with a screwdriver normally ends up needing sticky plasters Ha eg https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203636929372?hash=item2f69b4f35c:g:2MwAAOSw3WhhWKKF Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratton Jimmer Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 02/10/2021 at 12:33, Pete Lewis said: also worth a pick Aldi crimp and terminal set £7.99 https://www.aldi.co.uk/workzone-crimping-tool-set/p/804741480099400 Contents 1 x Crimping tool 15 x 100mm Cable ties (approx.) 15 x 130mm Wire (approx.) 60 x Cable plugs 30 x Flat plugs 30 x Flat plugs sleeves 20 x Butt connector 10 x Splashproof butt connector 50 x Assorted conductor end sleeves I have one of these and it is excellent. As an ex-RAF Electronics Technician I have soldered and crimped many connectors over the years and can vouch for these ALDI tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpbarrett Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 a proper ratchet crimping tool means the correct crimping force is always used to make the crimp. With this type of tool it all depends how tight you have squeezed the handles... not good if you want reliable crimps. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 you need hands like a vice to sometimes squeeze the ratchet pliers too and bullets and crimps are available in variety of size case thickness some are tough as old nick some so weedy they crush too easily they are a utopia or compromise job i have both , access plays a part in which to choose in difficult places i go for the easy crimps out in the open its the brick sh1t house ones Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 I use these, which really are brickouthouse ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted October 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 11 hours ago, Peter Truman said: How do you stop the rubber outer sleeve internal sprung tube Hi. Wasn't aware of this!, what the hell, is it?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 The bullet connectors slide into the centre metal bit which is a sprung tube shape to hold them in place; just a curl of metal. The rubber outer insulates to prevent shorts. The metal can move inside the rubber so that an end sticks out and short circuits, so needs to be kept central. Pushing one bullet in may move the metal inner out the other end so equal pressure at both ends at once keeps it in place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 thanks L a good explanation, so it's happened to you too i guess, always double check after fitting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 Pete L, here's a Hydraulic Crimper or Swager for cables from 4mmsq, to 35mmsq, it's a friends I borrowed to make battery cables but locally can be brought for $50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 wonderful pleased to say i can sleep easy without one these days Ha looks a good bit of kit if you do a lot but its bulky if you need to address a crimp in a confined space like upside down under the dash with upside down varifocals Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 Biggest problem I have with vari focal working on the car is keeping them on! Re crimps the lad I borrow them off races Jags and builds replica all alloy D and C Jags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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