Fasterandfuriouser Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Yes, the old soap based greases were pretty poor things. I used to give my Herald a quick squirt of moly grease once a year in the 70's. Modern greases however are far more sophisticated and formulations Suitable for high load, slow surface speed applications like a grunion exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 18 months ago my car had an advisory for trunnion wear (slight play), so I authorised a Triumph specialist on the Herts border to replace it. When I collected the car and asked the inevitable oil / grease question they told me that they had pumped it full of CV grease on the basis that 'all the new ones leak the oil out and new grease it okay'. I've tried a couple of times with my Wanner gun to force the grease out with EP90, but to no avail (although I've not yet tried it with the front jacked up and the wheels dangling), so may well strip the near side this weekend to de-grease and oil. The workshop manual suggests one needs to remove the hub, backplate etc - is this really necessary to pop the trunnion out of the wishbone and unscrew it from the vertical link? Based on the labour period charged for the replacement and no evidence of the calipers having been removed recently when I changed them 6 months ago, I suspect there is a work around? Many thanks, Gully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 Its an oil bath and should stay that way Yes the disc and splash back plate stops you rotating the trunnion off the upright Just makes a simple job a bit longer Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 When I ran trunnions I used land rover swivel housing grease.... the swivels originally had ep90 spec'd but because of leaks a new semi-fluid grease was developed. It seemed to keep my trunnions happy when I had them. I know they lack originality, but I'm happy with the trunnionless setup I have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 I believe that original trunnions were one piece of bronze. Later and modern copies had a steel disc swaged into the base, and this is where the leak happens. NEW ( and only new) trunnions can be sealed, by a bead of epoxy glue spread around the inside of the joint. There is space for this as the bottom of the upright shoulders never get that close. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 Saw that space in a cut away trunion at the twiddle day. Good to see the mechanics of it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 42 minutes ago, JohnD said: I believe that original trunnions were one piece of bronze. Later and modern copies had a steel disc swaged into the base, and this is where the leak happens. NEW ( and only new) trunnions can be sealed, by a bead of epoxy glue spread around the inside of the joint. There is space for this as the bottom of the upright shoulders never get that close. John I fitted new trunnions only to find they were leaking within 6 months , so I couldn’t repair with epoxy. I repaired by filling in with solder . To get the necessary heat you will need a gas blow lamp Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 12 hours ago, JohnD said: I believe that original trunnions were one piece of bronze. Later and modern copies had a steel disc swaged into the base, and this is where the leak happens. NEW ( and only new) trunnions can be sealed, by a bead of epoxy glue spread around the inside of the joint. There is space for this as the bottom of the upright shoulders never get that close Got a fail for trunions 2 years ago, replaced them and found my originals were ORIGINAL. Solid, one piece, they were however, not the original, original as I had previously replaced them in the early 80s. So early replacements were also one piece. Did I keep them for the mantle piece? No. As to only new, I'm a great believer in the dish washer, cleans just about anything. About to do the kitchen light fittings once again, thick with grease, well, mostly airborne olive oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 Woops! sorry about that, just bought some genuine Gibson Humbuckers for my Epiphone. Very excited, they're coming all the way from Spain, but no import duty, unlike all the way from America. Split coil wiring so I need a diagram. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 50 minutes ago, dougbgt6 said: Woops! sorry about that, just bought some genuine Gibson Humbuckers for my Epiphone. Very excited, It's OK, Doug, we understand that genuine humbuckers are exciting enough to want to post about it everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 Humbuckers? Some sort of hardboiled sweetie? Sideways has everything! J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 24 minutes ago, JohnD said: Humbuckers? Some sort of hardboiled sweetie? Sideways has everything! I think not, dude. db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 May be twiddle day 3 could focus on suspension for idiots? I’m first in the queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 What about suspension, Blitz? Camber and toe adjustment? Modification? J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Twiddle day 3 will be later in the year , around september after my duxford event Suspension....thats a big call where do you start and where to stop We have covered toe in and camber, But are we thinking about shockers and modifications or what not an easy subject for a twiddle.. just what are you wishing us to cover Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Well as a noob. Explain the main components and how to check MOT style what is ok and what’s buggered. Highlight the weak points in the set up and how to change parts. Not in-depth but mention good DIY techniques and tools required. For instance trunions. I know mine are greased not oiled so how to check for ware and how to replace. Im sure others would have a shed loads of old bits they could bring in to demonstrate rear suspention too. Why do they toe in where modern cars don’t and rear suspension components etc. Obviously only a suggestion with suspension it’s everyones event and I’m glad to learn anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 Peter, surely Club HQ has working models of front and rear suspension to demonstrate with? J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 John, Yes I've seen them. My MOT man showed me how to test for dodgy trunions. He had an 8 foot bar, put it under the front suspension and heaved it up and down. You could clearly see the trunnion slack on the vertical link. "Like a banana in a jam jar" as an ex once said to me. So all we need is an 8 foot bar. db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, dougbgt6 said: "Like a banana in a jam jar" as an ex once said to me Not sure if that is a reflection on you or your ex................. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 Quote where do you start and where to stop Centralising steering rack (and meanwhile identifying whether correct rack fitted) and correcting indicator cancelling/steering wheel centralising. Not strictly suspension, but the first topic in Carl Heilen's "Suspect Suspension Sussed" series (Courier Aug - Oct 1993). Stop wherever . . . C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 Thanks for the trunnion query replies. Having only recently cured pad pull back on my front calipers I don't immediately relish stripping the hub, so will put off for a little longer! I did try jacking the front and forcing the grease through with EP90 this morning, but to no avail. At least the offside has been oiled again! I plan to pick up a new near side trunnion and solder the cap prior to fitting. Thanks, Gully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 Gully, You need a bigger gun. I bought the Club Shop one, the body must be 18" long & 3" diameter, I can hardly lift it. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 5 hours ago, dougbgt6 said: Gully, You need a bigger gun. I bought the Club Shop one, the body must be 18" long & 3" diameter, I can hardly lift it. Doug Quite happy with my Wanner thank you! ? Gully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 Bah! Wanner! A ladies oil gun. You need the TSSC mega pumper, the most powerful oil gun in the world. db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 11, 2018 Report Share Posted June 11, 2018 doubbgt6, The 'b' doesn't stand for Boothroyd does it? Like the Major Boothroyd, M's arms expert who described Bond's Berretta 418 0.25" gun as "Nice and light... in a lady's handbag."? Unless you're echoing Dirty Harry. Now that I'd love to see if someone will please Photoshop it, him holding up the Punk with a Harrison 1/8" OIl gun. "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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