Colin Lindsay Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 PS Colin, despite the minimal cost to the Club and maximal convenience to members, at this stage I'm not advocating a digital, online Courier. Just an archive! Lol I know... but it still makes me jealous of anyone with good broadband! Apart from which... there's no substitute for a pile of old Couriers by the loo.... so you can search at your leisure. Or until your legs go numb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Colin, https://www.google.co.uk/#q=constipation+cure John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Lol... for me the best cure is my Insurance renewal (or the daughter's.... £2119.22 this year....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaf Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 I would like to add, I read the Courier magazine but do not keep it, the previous website where people could ask for help and receive it , with the vast knowledge of members was what made it for me. I have only recently come back on line, having found that you now have the forum reinstated. What a fantastic idea and somewhat slow uptake. Please get this through. What a wealth of knowledge just waiting to be made available on line. At the moment I am having to search google for what the back dated couriers would already have dealt with. Regards Shaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Look ot up scroll down the forum and find tech specs and whats on couriers up to 2006 the shop sells the 4 cd which covers all editions from 1977 to 2014 pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 But which, Pete, is nothing like as easy to use, for the reasons given above, as an online serach. That the TSSC offers an old-fashioned, slow and difficult to use alternative is an insufficient answer. JOhn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 But we like old-fashioned, slow and difficult. That's why we drive Triumphs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 John I was trying answer why Shaf was searching google when the listings and content are on the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasterandfuriouser Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 It would not be a simple or cheap thing to actually do - it may sound simple, and for small organisations with a simple newsletter with a basic website it is simple, but with an archive the size of the TSSCs it would be complex and expensive. . Searchable online archive copies are simple click of a button things to do. No expense beyond a few mouse clicks and 15 minutes work once a month. We have archived and searchable monthly magazines dating back to the mid 50's. Doing this is my 'Day job'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted July 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Thank you, FandF! Lets hope the TSSC CoM know this too! One of the most widely used softwraes to publish onlin and provide online acces to artilces is "issuu": https://issuu.com/pricing?headline=online_magazines&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=NE_|_Generic_|_United_Kingdom_Magazine&utm_content=Pricing_Headline_Online_Magazine&utm_term=online%20magazine&utm_sitelink=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwnazLBRDxARIsAECdauuWVTNaW0u4wxMs73XpwpXlsm_MEj3Ib_yPpUqSf6f6RXcQmE5jYakaAqqbEALw_wcB The MSA uses it to publish the MSA News: https://www.msauk.org/News-Publications/Publications/MSA-newsletters And many others. here's just a few: https://issuu.com/search?q=motoring John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasterandfuriouser Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Yes John, that's what we use. Once we've sent the .pdf files off to the printers for this months magazine, I upload the previous months magazine using the previous months files. PDF SAM, (free) to merge them into a magazine, ISSUU (also free) to publish them. Then just post a link on our website. Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Twitchen Posted July 18, 2017 Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 With all this expertise clearly flying around I am sure the CoM would welcome some voluntary support as to the detail, in which the devil lies, on how to proceed. Will need a business case to support the logic flow, ensure any burden is not onerously placed on individuals and technical advice from the experts for the benefit of all. Dick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasterandfuriouser Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 It's not a case of expertise being required, it's an acceptance that the world has moved on and DIY publish it yourself online is now no harder than posting a picture on Facebook. The artwork to produce the online version already exists at the end of each month with the pages created to print the Courier. ISSUU is ubiquitous and requires just a few clicks to upload and publish anything, and is used by everyone from major corporates, to Mss Minchin publishing the local knitting circles newsletter. If anyone is claiming an online magazine is 'hard','complex', 'very technical' or 'expensive', the issue (pun intended), lies with them, not the child's play simple process of online publishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Twitchen Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 F&F, I think the irony of my last post was lost in translation. I am sure like most things concerning IT usage it is not difficult but you 'do it as a day job' clearly indicates expertise, knowledge and experience in the field that is probably outside the volunteers on the CoM. If this is something to proceed with, and I feel it probably is, then they will need support to avoid stumbling around learning on the go and reaping the reward of condemnation if things go awry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted July 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Dick, Every time an IT proposal is made to the TSSC, the response is that it is too risky, too costly or time consuming, and when the Club is is dire financial straights that is understandable. But something like issuu is so very, very cheap, that in the unlikely event of failure the loss is trivial. There is a learning curve to any new system, of course, but the major stumbler is people's fear of failure. Issuu costs accoring to use: https://issuu.com/pricing?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Remarketing_%7C_Brand_%7C_English&utm_content=Pricing&utm_term=issuu&utm_sitelink=&gclid=CjwKCAjwqcHLBRAqEiwA-j4AyFT5SQyJWK3ZJEk4YXrS5EbW3Ue1p2q6RF-0cSizGLrgBzALDUUK_xoCfaAQAvD_BwE An individual can use it for nothing. A "start-up" will pay $19 (£14) a month. And so on. Any member of the Club or Courier team could take the free start-up version home and play with it, on their own home computer, and gain experience. Access to the PDFs that Courier is printed from would remove the stage of scanning the pages on the hard copy, so that as F&F says, it's a few clicks. The hard bit will be learning which order to do the clicks! Where is the risk? John PS re-reading this, it sounds as if I'm saying that F&F has a jammy job! I hope he'd agree that electronic publishing is a tiny part of his work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasterandfuriouser Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 How to publish online http://help.issuu.com/hc/en-us/articles/204816098-How-to-upload-and-publish-on-issuu Yes, it really is that simple. It can also be used by anyone within the club with a log in to upload newsletters or catalogues for the shop.. Yes John, the other part of the job can be far more interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph948 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Hi All Today was Com meeting,I put forward that the Forum members would like all the old Couriers digitising with a search facility to make life easier for searching articles etc. It was voted through with a full house for and none against. The only problem is we are such a small team now we do not have time to do it so ANY volunteers to start the work email me or call me and I can start the ball rolling. Thanks Chris Tssc Chairman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted August 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 WoW! Ask, and it shall be given unto you! Well done, Chris! And congratulations to the CoM! As the onlie (online?) begetter of this thread, I am happy to volunteer. I would hope that this can be done in a "crowd funding" type of way. I was a volunteer in the digitizing of Dickens' magazine "Home Thoughts". Hundred like me did the editing,but each only did a few issues. Anyone else? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave C Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'd be happy to help, preferably through the winter months. I like John's idea of many people sharing the load. We just need to ensure we standardise the way we do it. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Groves Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Happy to help Darren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'm happy to assist Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted August 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 And as I originally suggested, ask the TRR about how they went about it. Image digitising is easy, but doing it to be searchable is a xdifferent matter. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Cooper Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'm happy to help too. Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveweblin Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 I would be happy to help.Some intial thoughts on the project.What program is used to publish the Courier? If it is produced on Adobe InDesign for example it should be easy to save the document in PDF format at the same time as is it sent to the printer.The printer may also be able to help as they will be using a program to produce the paper version.For the back history we have scanned copies on CD up to a point. I think it may be possible to resave them in searchable PDF format. I have Adobe Acrobat that includes an Optical Character Recognition facity to convert images of text in a PDF into searchable format version. Other such programs are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted August 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 My only personal experience SAS, as said, helping do the same for Dickens' magazine, "Household Words". We were presented with an image of each page, with a version produced by character recognition. Our job was to correct the often faulty CR text to match the original. The organisers now have the entire run online and searchable: http://www.djo.org.uk/household-words.html John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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