Anglefire Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Trouble with the remain/leave thing is - we know what remain is like. And possibly what is coming. (Eu army compulsory euro? more central control etc) we don’t know what leave is like. Not now. We know historically what it was like , but that is some 30 odd years ago and things have changed. And everyone has different views of what the landscape will be like post Brexit. Most politicians seem to suggest it will be dire. Massive food and supplies shortages. Mass unemployment. brexiters see a land of utopia and untold wealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpitFire6 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Terraclean. What a V.expensive that additive is? Your injectors would have to be mega shagged for it to be worth the expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 6 hours ago, RogerH said: Now that is a head scratcher - it was Tony. Roger Dont bring me into it............ Tony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Spitfire6 said: Terraclean. What a V.expensive that additive is? Your injectors would have to be mega shagged for it to be worth the expense. It’s often quoted on the Land Rover forums as being really good - but has been debunked several times as having absolutely no effect what so ever. None of the claims have stood up to scrutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpitFire6 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 I also talk from experience. Just bought a 206cc 2L @90K miles and Ed the man said it could be good for a car at this mileage with no service history. Cost me over a 100 quid plus. Within 3 days of "clean!": Rear exhaust box fell off and had to be replaced. Lost a tank of fuel. Stuck on a motorway smoking. Apart from all additional costs and time = no difference to MPG or power. LOL. What a **at? Cheers, Iain. PS. Ed China & not me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Never used additives, always believed that the better the claimed improvement the only improvement was to the suppliers pocket Sometimes think I am wrong. Did not have an endowment mortgage so can not claim. Never took ppi on loans so can not claim Do not have a diesel car, when advised by government to do so. Must be others. Please add to list. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 43 minutes ago, 68vitesse said: Never used additives, always believed that the better the claimed improvement the only improvement was to the suppliers pocket Sometimes think I am wrong. Did not have an endowment mortgage so can not claim. Never took ppi on loans so can not claim Do not have a diesel car, when advised by government to do so. Must be others. Please add to list. Regards Paul Married?....... Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 44 minutes ago, 68vitesse said: Never used additives, always believed that the better the claimed improvement the only improvement was to the suppliers pocket Sometimes think I am wrong. Did not have an endowment mortgage so can not claim. Never took ppi on loans so can not claim We had an endowment mortgage. Checked the wording on the form we signed. Can’t claim Have had loans in the past. Not knowingly taken out ppi - but have recently done one of those we will check for you and take a lump off the top. Given that I can’t be arsed to go through it all, any money I get is a bonus. My parents have done it twice and got a payout both times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 I ran my own company, I thought PPI was a good idea to protect my mortgage re-payments. I asked Cheltenham and Gloucester "Why haven't I got it?" C & G said "Computer says NO!" Self employed, bad risk apparently, I wonder if I could claim for discrimination? db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted January 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, 68vitesse said: I take it you are referring to the remain campaign promises etc. Regards Paul Referring to, that the all potential voters, may have been misinformed, not given enough info on the implications, to make an informed choice to remain or leave. Cheers, Dave Edited January 27, 2019 by daverclasper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, daverclasper said: Referring to, that the all voters, may have been misinformed, not given enough info on the implications. Cheers, Dave The politicians didn't even know what they were letting the country in for. It hasn't changed they still don't know. Although I live in france & have French nationality (as well as British) I do keep a watch on the "progress", even to the point of having signed up to get all the notifications of every document issued, plans put in place or on standby etc including advice for UK nationals living in the various EU countries. Every time there has been one for Brits in France the info has been the same as always, with just a comment about how it might or might not change in the future. Does anyone know how much it is costing to do all this pre Brxit stuff? I get occasional updates on the sums spent on legal advice & communication fees. Hundreds of thousands at a time. Recently saw that the Gouv. had given out 3 contracts to shiping companies in case they are needed to increase the number of ferries across the channel. the total was £140 million. One of the contracts for £14 million went to Seaborne. A shipping company with no experience in lorry traffic, they don't have any suitable boats and are "planning" to put in place by mid March (i.e. they have nothing set up at present) to use Oostende and Ramsgate. Two ports that haven't done any cross channel shipping for around 4 years. Therefore no staff, equipment not serviced and acess not dredged. Heaven help us all... "We're all doomed" as the man said. My nearest cross channel ferry port, Ouistreham, does 3 crossings per day but have said that should there be no deal the extra delays in loading and unloading will reduce this to 2 per day. There are no winners with Brexit only various degrees of losers. Rant over, normal service can now resume. Why should I even care? I have French nationality am completely in the system (I'm even a local councillor) so no worries there. Oh, exchange rate! S**t, Both my State and private pensions have dropped in Euros since the referendum. I for one will be glad when it is all over and things settle down. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 56 minutes ago, Chris A said: There are no winners with Brexit only various degrees of losers. Consider it a divorce. It's going to cost, particularly in lawyers and legal fees in the short term, but it'll be the long-term rebuild that really matters. If you ignore the big domineering players like France and Germany, and the idiotic give-nothing-take-all hangers-on like Ireland, there are a number of mid-range countries watching to see how the UK goes, as they're interested in leaving too. In a year or so things might be quite surprising. 13 hours ago, Spitfire6 said: Within 3 days of "clean!": Rear exhaust box fell off and had to be replaced. Hardly the result of the engine clean, unless the released power became more than the exhaust could handle? I was buying a bathroom mirror recently, and was checking reviews on Amazon; there was a concave mirror which the buyer gave a really negative review to, as he had placed it on his bathroom wall where the sunlight caught it and the magnified rays melted his uPvc window frame. Not really the fault of the mirror.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said: In a year or so things might be quite surprising. Saw some "talking heads" on the TV this morning, one said "Don't make the mistake of thinking this will be all over in a couple of months, this will rumble on for 20 years." So that's reassuring. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 It will rumble on for 20years if people let it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Are talking heads self important or experts?, we are where we are because of experts i.e drips under pressure. Talking to a chap from Ireland in a pub the other day, he said he voted remain, who expressed the view that Ireland would follow us out. Hell of a thread if this continues for twenty more years. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, 68vitesse said: Hell of a thread if this continues for twenty more years. Regards Paul Now that is a challenge ! 🙈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 The referendum demographic was that the older the voter the more likely they voted leave. The younger the voter the more likely they voted remain. The outcome was close but the oldies won. However, as the oldies fall off their perches the pendulum will swing the other way and the "Democratic Will of the Peoples Party" will offer a referendum to try and rid their party of Euro nutters. And off we go again. db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 49 minutes ago, dougbgt6 said: The referendum demographic was that the older the voter the more likely they voted leave. The younger the voter the more likely they voted remain. The outcome was close but the oldies won. However, as the oldies fall off their perches the pendulum will swing the other way and the "Democratic Will of the Peoples Party" will offer a referendum to try and rid their party of Euro nutters. And off we go again. db But what caused the oldies to fall off their perches!😯 Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Bird flu ?? a problem with the debt, was it on hire purchase , and further to fall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 In life only 3 things are certain, death, taxes and "Did you hear that strange noise from my engine? " db 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68vitesse Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Are the voters who are dying off the same ones who voted to stay in the EU in 1975 and been regretting it ever since?. If we wait as long for another EU membership referendum I will have long since dropped of my perch, or is it soapbox. Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, dougbgt6 said: The referendum demographic was that the older the voter the more likely they voted leave. The younger the voter the more likely they voted remain. The outcome was close but the oldies won. However, as the oldies fall off their perches the pendulum will swing the other way and the "Democratic Will of the Peoples Party" will offer a referendum to try and rid their party of Euro nutters. And off we go again. db But when the young folk become old folk will they change their minds? Watch this space! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.vitesse Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, Chris A said: But when the young folk become old folk will they change their minds? Watch this space! Arr the good old days their be saying. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpitFire6 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 ZDDP is another additive that some people swear that it's a good thing above certain quantities. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Spitfire6 said: ZDDP is another additive that some people swear that it's a good thing above certain quantities. LOL But not if you drink it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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