Chris A Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 I have a 13/60 and should the radiator decide to eject coolant it is lost. A Vitesse has an overflow bottle and retrieves the liquid when it cools. Why are the two models treated differently? Any real reason? Can a 13/60 be equipped with such a bottle? My car doesn't have a problem, really honest, just wondering. Yes, I have other things to do but its almost coffee time. Thanks to all and again sorry for taking you away from more important jobs 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerH Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Hi Chris, I don;t know if it can be done easily; but you would need a double seal rad cap and an outlet in the neck of the rad to the expansion bottle for starters. Over to the experts. Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 No reason why not; the Herald just has an overflow pipe that vents to the ground and most filler caps these days are the same design, so unless I'm missing something in the mechanicals, you could just add an overflow bottle that would draw the coolant back in again, same as in the other models. It's a throwback to the early days when any kind of trip meant checking water and oil etc before starting off, so in theory the Herald should lose a small amount of water due to expansion which is then regularly topped up. Even if the system doesn't want to automatically draw the coolant back in, at least you can just pour it back in when cold and therefore not waste it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted July 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Yes, I had figured that the method of sealing the rad is different. Maybe it was simply Triumph cost cutting, as if they would do such a thing 😱 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 just add a bottle to the existing overflow, add a cornflake packet gasket to the top inside the orig cap might be workable, a double seal cap tends to have a copper /bronzy light sprung dished washer support for a this fibre or rubber disc but cornflakes are a cheap start Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted July 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: add a cornflake packet gasket Pete Don't eat Cornflakes, maybe Madame's cereal biscuit box would do instead. Thanks for the tip though, will give the idea some thought when I'm bored and don't want to/ can't go for a drive. Next Tuesday, 14th July French National holiday, we have a small gathering of old cars & drivers, if I get bored that might be a good time to think it over. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 I put a Vitesse bottle on my Herald when i fitted the new 1500,i put some coolant in the bottle to gauge what happened,in 500 miles it never saw hot water in the bottle,so it can`t have either drawn or expelled coolant into it. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 In the Herald, it expands until the excess comes out of the overflow; then when it cools it's obviously down slightly on the previous level, but everytime the engine warms up it's back to full again. It should need slight topping up every so often, but not huge amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 With my 13/60 it took me ages to determine what the correct level is. Top it up too much and it gets rid of it. Now I know I just check it regularly, my 'did stick' is my first finger - if the level doesn't make my finger wet add coolant. NOTE: only do this when the coolant is cold 😲 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 On 10/07/2020 at 09:40, Chris A said: My car doesn't have a problem, really honest, just wondering. Yes, I have other things to do but its almost coffee time. Thanks to all and again sorry for taking you away from more important jobs 😁 Chris, These are the questions we love! What if...........? Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 on a non semi sealed system there will always be a air gap in the rad header brim it and it just gets pushed out the overflow when things cool and hoses contract etc the small valve in the rad cap centre allows air in this level should stay as till theres a loss . Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 what if ........... I used africa shower gel and .......................havent seen an elephant all day pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 It's not the variant African shower gel is it? That's why they're keeping away! db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 think it was Asda does that count ?? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 AsdaZeneca shower gel does not work against the Covid elephant strain apparently, according to today's news. db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: what if ........... I used africa shower gel and .......................havent seen an elephant all day pete You really want to smell like Africa? Re the rad; if I can see the tops of the core pipes when looking down through the filler neck, I refill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 21 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said: Re the rad; if I can see the tops of the core pipes when looking down through the filler neck, I refill. You've obviously got good eyesight 😁. My level is with them covered by about a couple of centimetres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 34 minutes ago, Chris A said: You've obviously got good eyesight 😁. My level is with them covered by about a couple of centimetres It's the practice he get's Chris, trying to spot Elephants in Asda..... Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 You always know when you've passed an elephant... you can't get the toilet seat down... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 hours ago, dougbgt6 said: AsdaZeneca shower gel who's a smart ar£se Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Amongst the "debris" that came with "project 13/60", was a round bottle (plastic) circa 3"dia. about 7 or 8" tall?. No Idea what it`s for?. Could this be the answer?. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Washer bottle ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chris A said: Washer bottle ? Not a lot of volume for a washer bottle?. Two good washes and?. Mind?. I supose when washers where introduced they did not figure on the MOT. (by 1970/1?). Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, PeteH said: Not a lot of volume for a washer bottle?. Two good washes and?. Mind?. I supose when washers where introduced they did not figure on the MOT. (by 1970/1?). Pete With the pathetic push pump it takes forever to use even that little bottle up fit an electric pump and it is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 The original Tudor Bottle was about the size quoted, the Spit and Vitesse both had them. I can confirm when you go to an electric pump it empties pretty quick, a lot easier to keep the button pushed just to get that last smear off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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