Paul H Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 Any recommendations, normally buy a few so some time since I bought some Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 i have always stuck to basics and got a pack from club shop no fafing about or getting paranoid about drain back they have worked well enough for me over 20 years Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 On my "moderns" recently I`ve been using Mann Filters?. But I`ll have to check what the 13/60 has as it`s supposed to be a 1300 Spitfire Engine. I don`t know if the Oil filter is the same? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 The 1300 Herald filter should be the same as that for the 1300 Spitfire, same size and connection, unless you have an adaptor fitted to 'step up' the screw-in thread from 5/8 18 tpi to 3/4 16 tpi, in which case there's a much wider range of filters available. The adaptors are hard to find now, WIX made them under part number 24037 but those have long been unavailable. The original GFE150 are still about in various brands, but some of these are name only and the quality has suffered over the years. If you're looking for an adaptor make sure it's a 'step-up' and not just the screw-in tube that enables you to use a female 'screw-on' filter with no threaded tube as opposed to the early male 'screw-in' filter which had the tube built-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 I got a spare adapter to convert the threads to the more usual air filters last year from a machine shop in Auckland NZ, I know it's a little far to go, but if needs I can search out the supplier wasn't too dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said: The 1300 Herald filter should be the same as that for the 1300 Spitfire, same size and connection, unless you have an adaptor fitted to 'step up' the screw-in thread from 5/8 18 tpi to 3/4 16 tpi, in which case there's a much wider range of filters available. The adaptors are hard to find now, WIX made them under part number 24037 but those have long been unavailable. The original GFE150 are still about in various brands, but some of these are name only and the quality has suffered over the years. If you're looking for an adaptor make sure it's a 'step-up' and not just the screw-in tube that enables you to use a female 'screw-on' filter with no threaded tube as opposed to the early male 'screw-in' filter which had the tube built-in. No chance of a picture?. I suppose. I`ve got brass stock and a lathe plus a full Tap and Die set if needed. I even reckon I could still "screw cut" even though it is about 40+years since I did?. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puglet1 Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) Hi Paul. Do you have the original paper type filter or are you using a spin on type? Pete. Edited December 28, 2023 by Puglet1 Forgot name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted December 28, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 52 minutes ago, Puglet1 said: Hi Paul. Do you have the original paper type filter or are you using a spin on type? Pete. Sorry should have said spin off . Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratton Jimmer Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 I get my spin off filters from the club shop. No complaints from me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigolf Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 Paul, this is what I bought recently, from Euro Car Parts. It's a compact filter ( Herald size),which fits my spin on adaptor location easily. It's listed for Alfa 164 3.0 1994 I think. Second pic shows Euro C part number. It has an anti-drain flap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, PeteH said: No chance of a picture?. I suppose. I`ve got brass stock and a lathe plus a full Tap and Die set if needed. I even reckon I could still "screw cut" even though it is about 40+years since I did?. Pete The original Herald insert (on left) was a simple straight pipe threaded to 5/8 18 tpi; it screwed into both filter and block and was very easy to throw it away with the filter!! (Done that) The adaptor was stepped up to 3/4 around half way along, with a collar or nut to prevent it being screwed too far in. The modern filters that take this larger size are more readily available, and probably perform better. Edited December 28, 2023 by Colin Lindsay text correction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted December 28, 2023 Report Share Posted December 28, 2023 The thin locking nut is a good idea to stop throwing away the old original all 5/8in 18TPI threaded tube with the old filter, as Colin L has done I've done that a couple of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 Cheers Guys, I now have to find out if Jeff or another P-O has already done the upgrade. Looking at the Adaptors, It`s a quite simple job of turning/screwcutting, if I have to do it. I may even have a 55deg thread tool in my old box. The Thread guages are with the Micrometers. 👍 Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 Clive, who hasn’t posted on here for a while, had a couple of dozen of these thread converters made and passed them on at cost. He was BIG on stopping drain back and a big fan of Mann filters. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 I have one of Clives adapters on my 1500 Herald and use Mann filters, doesn`t stop drain back though. I spin it over with no choke for a few seconds until the light goes out. On my Vitesse with spin on filter housing I use Fram from a ford Escort, never had any start up rattles and excellent pressure.PH2964. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) I just dont and wont get the paranoia about drain back its done it for 50 years without any problems you wont stop drain back from the gallery or crank journals all this is faffing around when the bog std does all it needs to for just a few £s and how many read the service notes to say renew filter every other oil change and how many make the oil change mileages ???? happy new year .....get a life and drive the smile it time to worry about something real Pete Edited December 30, 2023 by Pete Lewis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 Not paranoid about drain back Pete, as long as it`s got decent pressure it`s fine, went out in my Vitesse yesterday, then decided to take the heater apart to see why it`s cold, flap thing appears to do nothing, when I had the matrix out I could see the flap doesn`t move when the cable is in or out, more investigation under the dash required. Matrix is free flowing, can`t get it back together as the Smiths valve won`t seal on the matrix connection, new grommet required and I don`t have one. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 If not worried about drain back original 1300 Mini filter is correct size and very cheap because no non return flaps (= slightly less pressure drop😁).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Steve P said: new grommet required and I don`t have one. ive made them from a slice of heater hose seems to work well Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted December 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 In the end purchased Fram PH966B for my Vitesse from https://www.arnoldclarkautoparts.com/products/fram-oil-filter-ph966b?_pos=1&_sid=55a69e467&_ss=r purchased 3 for £19.75 delivered Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 The adapters the Clive used to sell were the WIX 24037 adapter. They usually came from Rock Auto in the USA and cost about $5 each - but the postage to the UK was the killer. It looks like WIX has discontinued them, so any that are left in the supply chain will probably sell for a premium. 2 sellers on Ebay at the moment, one at $60 each and the other at $21.20 each - and both of them probably wont post to the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 I have one if anyone wants to copy it. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 On 30/12/2023 at 12:29, Pete Lewis said: I just dont and wont get the paranoia about drain back its done it for 50 years without any problems you wont stop drain back from the gallery or crank journals all this is faffing around when the bog std does all it needs to for just a few £s and how many read the service notes to say renew filter every other oil change and how many make the oil change mileages ???? happy new year .....get a life and drive the smile it time to worry about something real Pete Well it can't help to lose that filter fill-up first, with an anti-drain filter fitted... but on the Herald it's a system where only a percentage of the oil actually goes through the filter on circulating anyway so the rest of the system will be getting oil at the same time as the filter is filling. Oil change for the Herald was given as every 3000 miles.... not a lot these days! It's more of a worry with high-mileage cars where wear means that the original tolerances are long gone and the oil has more room to fill hence lower pressure, and you get the dry thump-thump-thump on startup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 (edited) 16 hours ago, Colin Lindsay said: Oil change for the Herald was given as every 3000 miles.... not a lot these days! Sadly I’ve probably only done 30 miles this year so looking forward 2034. 😆 Doug Edited January 1 by dougbgt6 2124! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMi Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, dougbgt6 said: Sadly I’ve probably only done 30 miles this year so looking forward 2034. 😆 Wow a 10 year wait!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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