Iain T Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Hi Paula As it's cold and damp today I'm trying to get out of cleaning the car so I thought I'd surf the forum. I'm no expert but looking at your video it looks like I can see the needle retaining screw hole on the left hand carb, in that case I believe the piston is 90 degrees out. The two slots at the bottom of the piston should face the inlet manifold in which case the retaining screw hole is facing the side of the carb? If it is wrong then the diaphragm is also not seated correctly. I'm sure 'the experts' in our forum will either shoot me down or agree. Iain PS in the late 60's/early 70's I used to go to the Westcliff Hotel Essex as they had some great groups there, Focus (Dutch), Vinegar Joe (early Elkie Brooks), Roxy Music, Can (German) etc. Then there was also the Kursaal Southend, I saw Hawkwind in about '71/72 and they still had Stacey naked and daubed in body paint dancing on stage....aaah the memories!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted November 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Iain T said: Hi Paula As it's cold and damp today I'm trying to get out of cleaning the car so I thought I'd surf the forum. I'm no expert but looking at your video it looks like I can see the needle retaining screw hole on the left hand carb, in that case I believe the piston is 90 degrees out. The two slots at the bottom of the piston should face the inlet manifold in which case the retaining screw hole is facing the side of the carb? If it is wrong then the diaphragm is also not seated correctly. I'm sure 'the experts' in our forum will either shoot me down or agree. Iain PS in the late 60's/early 70's I used to go to the Westcliff Hotel Essex as they had some great groups there, Focus (Dutch), Vinegar Joe (early Elkie Brooks), Roxy Music, Can (German) etc. Then there was also the Kursaal Southend, I saw Hawkwind in about '71/72 and they still had Stacey naked and daubed in body paint dancing on stage....aaah the memories!!!! Oh interesting. I've just bought a pair of carbs from a chap on facebook for £50. I'm hoping to service them and learn more about this voodoo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Ah, Strombergs, nice. I put mine through the dishwasher, not entirely a success, the ali bits came out fine, but the steel bits started to turn orange before my eyes😲 A good site explaining Stroms is buckeye triumphs, theirs are the bigger version fitted to USA TR6s but essentially the same. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just following on from the club music theme earlier in the posts. If I am correct then the front carb is not working properly. I have my own issues with the 150 cds choke mechanism on my mk2. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted November 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 hour ago, dougbgt6 said: Ah, Strombergs, nice. I put mine through the dishwasher, not entirely a success, the ali bits came out fine, but the steel bits started to turn orange before my eyes😲 A good site explaining Stroms is buckeye triumphs, theirs are the bigger version fitted to USA TR6s but essentially the same. Doug Oh great. I'll get a kit and give them a good polish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted November 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Do you think i'd need a full kit like this? https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Triumph-Gt6-MK-1-Vitesse-MK-1-Stromberg-Cd150-Carb-Rebuild-Kit/11010691395?iid=233398436352&chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=233398436352&targetid=486899017854&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9045945&poi=&campaignid=7643169339&mkgroupid=78014892141&rlsatarget=pla-486899017854&abcId=1139576&merchantid=6995734&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI346Y28X75QIVCbLtCh0zwggtEAQYAiABEgIPHPD_BwE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Worth cleaning the carbs first with something like Gunk and brake cleaner, then strip one carb at a time to determine what is actually required, before splashing out. However at least you know there is a full kit to fit, if so required. Regards. Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 Yes, See what you’ve got first, as Richard says you may not need everything in the £80 kit. Rimmers do gasket sets for around £20, spindles and butterfly’s can be bought separately. But please look at Buckeye Triumphs, tells you everything. Doug 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 yes look first.......... buy later you may just need a spindle with wears first, you can check out individual parts on places like http://zenithcarb.co.uk/cf/vehicle/list/?manufacturer=Triumph&vehicle=Vitesse and as doug suggests https://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/carburetors Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted November 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: yes look first.......... buy later you may just need a spindle with wears first, you can check out individual parts on places like http://zenithcarb.co.uk/cf/vehicle/list/?manufacturer=Triumph&vehicle=Vitesse and as doug suggests https://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/carburetors Pete The Zenith Carb site is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted December 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 I've finished the carbs, I ended up getting a sonic cleaner. They are now the cleanest carbs in christendom! Pictures soon! I'll probably sell these and then do the same to the original ones. In the meantime I failed an MOT on the handbrake. I've asked the garage to fix that for me as i'm guessing it just needs adjustment on the cable as the brakes passed with the pedal and it will be much easier on a ramp. I also got an advisory for a front wheel bearing. Can i do this without special tools like pullers and presses? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted December 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 If anyone wants something fizzed in my cleaner let me know! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rijidij Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Ooh. I was thinking of getting one of those. It looks like a big one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted December 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rijidij said: Ooh. I was thinking of getting one of those. It looks like a big one. It is https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0744GPKBL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 only fits one carb at a time though. Makes a great noise! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 £130!!!!! £60 on eBay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/133021363720?rt=nc&var=432315299822&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3Db45ce312ac914a4ca6379dbc5ce4a85a%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D8%26rkt%3D30%26sd%3D123866666775%26itm%3D432315299822%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2386202 At which price, I just might get one! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 What was the wheel bearing advisory for? Excessive play, or 'rumble' from wear? The former is a typical 'modern' MoT result from someone who doesn't understand taper bearings! Assuming the front wheel bearings are the same set up as the GT6, then no special tools required. The races tap out (and in) and I've not needed a puller to remove the bearings from the stub axle - only a light interference fit. Club shop sells bearing packs with the correct felt seal and cup - there are some oddities around. Gully 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, JohnD said: £130!!!!! £60 on eBay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/133021363720?rt=nc&var=432315299822&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3Db45ce312ac914a4ca6379dbc5ce4a85a%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D8%26rkt%3D30%26sd%3D123866666775%26itm%3D432315299822%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2386202 At which price, I just might get one! John The EBay version is 3 Litre and Paula’s is 6 Litre Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted December 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnD said: £130!!!!! £60 on eBay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/133021363720?rt=nc&var=432315299822&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3Db45ce312ac914a4ca6379dbc5ce4a85a%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D8%26rkt%3D30%26sd%3D123866666775%26itm%3D432315299822%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2386202 At which price, I just might get one! John Not for the big one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted December 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Gully said: What was the wheel bearing advisory for? Excessive play, or 'rumble' from wear? The former is a typical 'modern' MoT result from someone who doesn't understand taper bearings! Assuming the front wheel bearings are the same set up as the GT6, then no special tools required. The races tap out (and in) and I've not needed a puller to remove the bearings from the stub axle - only a light interference fit. Club shop sells bearing packs with the correct felt seal and cup - there are some oddities around. Gully Fantastic! I'll check when i get the car back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 many dont realise the front hubs MUST have some play( end float) the spec is 0.002" to a wide 0.008" you cant really measure this with any sense its simple to adjust , the hardest is getting the cap off the hub, takes a bit of screwdriver and tapping in the hub you will see a castle nut held with a split pin , ( need to be on the jack to set this ) remove the split pin , turn nut lightly to nip its up, no gorilla hands back the nut one flat and maybe a little to re align the pin hole fit pin , hold wheel top and bottom and you should feel a small amount or 'rock' at 0.002" you just feel the rock at the max 0.008" you would find some big rock ....its going to fall off syndrome 15 mins and jobs done Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted December 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: many dont realise the front hubs MUST have some play( end float) the spec is 0.002" to a wide 0.008" you cant really measure this with any sense its simple to adjust , the hardest is getting the cap off the hub, takes a bit of screwdriver and tapping in the hub you will see a castle nut held with a split pin , ( need to be on the jack to set this ) remove the split pin , turn nut lightly to nip its up, no gorilla hands back the nut one flat and maybe a little to re align the pin hole fit pin , hold wheel top and bottom and you should feel a small amount or 'rock' at 0.002" you just feel the rock at the max 0.008" you would find some big rock ....its going to fall off syndrome 15 mins and jobs done Pete They are pretty good down there. But i'll definitely have a wiggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 There was a well known member of another Triumph club that kept having failures of his front wheel bearings, always at awkward times and never long after the previous ones, but never in our presence. Then one day they failed whilst on a group trip to France, and we saw him tightening them up with a 3ft breaker bar after replacement . Did not have any more failures after that... 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 Wow! Big time kit, Paula! Envious! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted December 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 I read on Amazon Reviews that they basically lie about the capacity of these things. So I went big. One disassembled carb almost fills a 6ltr one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 I used to tighten my wheel bearings on MOT morning and slacken them off afterwards, saved a lot of arguing. As for the sonic cleaner I think my dishwasher is just as effective. 😊 Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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