Colin Lindsay Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 11 hours ago, poppyman said: I actually have some Me too! How long does it last in an aerosol can? I have four tins of code 19 bought from TSSC Shop back in the 1990s... never so much as rattled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 hadnt thought of that .....just one snag ...........you've saved up the party fund . im just a poor old pensioner on loads of pills i cant get to aldi for the beers Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Pete Lewis said: hadnt thought of that .....just one snag ...........you've saved up the party fund . im just a poor old pensioner on loads of pills i cant get to aldi for the beers Pete Just bring the pills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 colin you wont open them with one arm , child proofed pensioner proofed , needs a chain saw to open the blighters pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Don't worry, if I'm desperate enough I'll gnaw the top off. It's amazing what you can do one-handed if you just jam the end in somewhere tight. Maybe I should rephrase that? 😮 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Colin Lindsay said: Don't worry, if I'm desperate enough I'll gnaw the top off. It's amazing what you can do one-handed if you just jam the end in somewhere tight. Maybe I should rephrase that? 😮 Would that be your wallet Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Bring Your Own...……Pumpkin? Pineapple? Pinot Grigio! db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludwig113 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 apart from the party(i'm fairly close i think ) find out the cost of the repair panels etc as being able to supply the parts might make a difference to you're quotes... paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 It took me awhile but i managed to to get up to Moordale Motors in Potters Bar. I was visiting a friend nearby so i chose them. They said to do the work properly would cost at least £3000. It sounded like it would probably cost more after they had removed the roof and seen what's underneath. So i'll be putting that on hold for the foreseeable future. Good to get an actual figure I suppose. I was thinking of squirting some of this up inside the boot into top of the rear wings. Up into the fins basically. I've already glooped it up quite a lot with fibreglass stuff, I just thought this might seal up the bits i've missed. Terrible idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerH Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Hi Paula, the filler is possibly not a great idea. It will not stop moisture getting in but it will stop the moisture from drying out. Also when you do have any repairs actioned the gargae will have to dig it out out = £££££ Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 Hi Paula you could use a product like Bilthamber Dynax , you get a “Lance” so it’s easy to spray into difficult to access areas , this would stop the corrosion spreading Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, RogerH said: Hi Paula, the filler is possibly not a great idea. It will not stop moisture getting in but it will stop the moisture from drying out. Also when you do have any repairs actioned the gargae will have to dig it out out = £££££ Roger Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Paul H said: Hi Paula you could use a product like Bilthamber Dynax , you get a “Lance” so it’s easy to spray into difficult to access areas , this would stop the corrosion spreading Paul That stuff looks perfect. Do you think it will seal over small cracks? I suppose i could build up layers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 36 minutes ago, Paula said: That stuff looks perfect. Do you think it will seal over small cracks? I suppose i could build up layers Dynax is not designed to be layered but if you let it set leaving a few days between applications it should buildup , at the very least Dynax will stop further corrosion Paul Thinking outside the box you could use a rust remover like Bilthamber Deox-Gel. And then paint on PVA glue in layers waiting for each layer to dry throughly before the next layer . Assuming the PVA will adhere to the metal this will give some strength so you could fill the cracks from the outside . Finally give the PVA a coating of Dynax . PVA is cheap as chips . I haven’t tried this but a test on waste metal might be worth it as an interim fix . PVA glue starts off white and goes transparent when cured , apply in thin layers sorry gave you the wrong link for PVA here it is https://www.toolstation.com/interior-exterior-pva-wood-glue/p22271 Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Paul H said: Dynax is not designed to be layered but if you let it set leaving a few days between applications it should buildup , at the very least Dynax will stop further corrosion Paul Thinking outside the box you could use another rust remover like Bilthamber Deox-Gel. And then paint on PVA glue in layers waiting for each layer to dry throughly before the next layer . Assuming the PVA will adhere to the metal this will give some strength so you could fill the cracks from the outside . Finally give the PVA a coating of Dynax . PVA is cheap as chips . I haven’t tried this but a test on waste metal might be worth it as an interim fix . PVA glue starts off white and goes transparent when cured , apply in thin layers Paul Interesting idea. I do have a 5ltr thing of PVA. I forget why! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 I’d avoid using PVA as it remains water soluble even when dry. SBR is very similar to PVA but is not water soluble when dry so should be much better 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, KevinR said: I’d avoid using PVA as it remains water soluble even when dry. SBR is very similar to PVA but is not water soluble when dry so should be much better Dammit! Now I’ll never use up that PVA! Good to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerH Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Stick with the Dynax or Dinitrol spray products. It works and is easy(ish) to remove when needed. Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 just back to building expanding foam you can give the underside of the panel a good squirt and next day find the boot is totally filled .....avoid like the plague think ive said as for a filler ive used marine epoxy its water proof , quite hard to sand , but lasts for years , mixes same as body fillers , but is not a sponge to soak up moisture £3000 best avoided , in the summer you can whip the roof off and attack from the outside Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted February 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: just back to building expanding foam you can give the underside of the panel a good squirt and next day find the boot is totally filled .....avoid like the plague Sounds exactly like the sort of thing that would happen to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 Paula, you really need to contact Andy Dann. His prices are very reasonable.... I know he is a bit of a trek, but he may be able to give a rough idea from pictures etc. Moordales do very good work and top end finish etc, and I know Dale. But I suspect you may be OK with something that is more basic finish but sound and very presentable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 If you are desperate Paula? This stuff is ok, and you can get it off without to much problem. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tetrion-Make-Good-Fix-A-Leak-400ml-Spray-Leaks-Cracks-Sealant-Filler-TFL400/333240375766?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D564e595926e64aa19e65b59b326840bf%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D331858093999%26itm%3D333240375766%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWeb&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 A pal has used who is in a similar situation. Tony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Pete Lewis said: just back to building expanding foam you can give the underside of the panel a good squirt and next day find the boot is totally filled .....avoid like the plague think ive said as for a filler ive used marine epoxy its water proof , quite hard to sand , but lasts for years , mixes same as body fillers , but is not a sponge to soak up moisture £3000 best avoided , in the summer you can whip the roof off and attack from the outside Pete Paula, Pete is exaggerating! I've not used expanding foam in the way you describe - I did to make the GRP roof for Silverback, double-skinned with honeycomb betweeen, VERY stiff! I used the foam to glue the honeycomb to the underside of the outer skin, squirting lines of foam under the edges of the 'comb. It didn't fill the whole roof! Anyway, if you do use a bit much, it's easily cut with a knife, and you could hack it back and out of sight. I'd try to deal with any rot where you will put the fowm before you do, but Pete is right that PolyU foam will absorb water, so a good finish on the outside may help too. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 off track , back in the 70s we got in law 's to take up cavity wall foam deal we got with ICI ( well not entirely) it was a 1 for them 2 for himself and without sealing off some vents Mum found her vacuum and vegetables encased in the cupboard under the stairs , we were not amused !!! well we were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted February 23, 2020 Report Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 04/01/2020 at 12:23, dougbgt6 said: Bring Your Own...……Pumpkin? Pineapple? Pinot Grigio! db Have you heard of the new brand of red wine that removes the problem of having to run to the loo after drinking a bottle? It's called Pinot More. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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