GFL Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 I saw this too, one thing that stands out is I cannot see one foreign car, or is that an NSU at the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Longhurst Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Mathewson's Auction site back in the late 1970s. It's still as crammed today judging by the TV series! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Costigan Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 The white car at the top is a Simca 1000. My guess is the compound of an auction house; apart from the MkVII Jaguar in the top left they are all early to mid-1960s, and not a reflective plate in sight so probably taken around 1968/69 when they were all about five to seven years old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 If you look closely at some of them you can see what appear to be personal effects; not only the L plate but objects sitting on the dashboards or inside the cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 I would tend to favour a BCA site (British Car Auctions), But the Ford Corsair in the bottom of the photo, appears to have what may have been the original Orange Disabled Badge in the window. so I wonder if it is a recovered car compound?. My son`s both did Valeting work weekends in the 80`s,for BCA Camberley as teens, a lot of cars came in with personal stuff still in them. (And more!!) Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 i wondered about airport parking cowboys Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Longhurst Posted December 28, 2022 Report Share Posted December 28, 2022 This photo was listed on eBay a few days ago (now sold) by an Australian seller as:- 'Triumph Herald Hardtop 1963 Motor Show Car Old Photo' Although the car is LHD I suspect the Herald 1200 Convertible may be on a Triumph Stand in the U.K. The hard top is rather nice with the wrap-around rear window; I don't recall seeing the design before; does anyone know if it was a Standard-Triumph offering? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted December 28, 2022 Report Share Posted December 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, Chris Longhurst said: does anyone know if it was a Standard-Triumph offering? The TR4? next to it has a very similar style hardtop. Presumably either both or neither were ST offerings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 28, 2022 Report Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Chris Longhurst said: The hard top is rather nice with the wrap-around rear window; I don't recall seeing the design before; does anyone know if it was a Standard-Triumph offering? It's a very nice design; I'd go for one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted December 28, 2022 Report Share Posted December 28, 2022 Do you think the Vitesse/Herald offering could be TR4 Surrey Style ie removable top section, seeing the lid appears to overhang the rear window. Anyway its attractive and like Colin I'd definitely have one! The TR4 offering alongside almost looks like a standard ST Surrey Top except the short near vertical fitting above the B Post, or is that just light/shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted December 28, 2022 Report Share Posted December 28, 2022 The TR Surrey top looks standard to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 Either way, It makes a Nice looking Coupe?. A "one off" modified from a Herald (saloon) Roof?. It look`s a bit Expensive?. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 we need a 1963 trader plan for the 63 motor show ( i guess Earls Court RIP) to find a likley trader to aid the search well here goes its possible one of these 1963 Motor Show Jump to:navigation, search October 1963. Motor Show catalogue. Note: This is a sub-section of Motor Show Catalogues A list of the exhibitors at the 48th International Motor Exhibition held at Earl's Court, London in October 16th to 26th. Foreign companies and those that are non-industrial (like insurance and publishing) have been excluded from this list. A. C. Buchanan (Motor Spares), BirminghamA. C. Cars, SurreyA. C. Withnell, AshfordA. F. N.. IsleworthA. P. Newall and CoA. R. O. Machinery Co, LondonA. Schraders Son Division of Scovill Manufacturing Co, ErdingtonA. W. Chapman, LondonAC-Delco Division of General Motors, DunstableActon BoltAdvance Motor Supplies, ChesterfieldAeon Products (London), LondonAerograph-DeVilbiss Co, West HoweAeropreen, High WycombeAir Industrial Developments, ShenstoneAircraft-Marine Products, LondonAirflow Streamlines, NorthamptonAlexander Duckham and Co, LondonAlford and Alder (Engineers), Hemel HempsteadAlvis, CoventryAndre Rubber Co, SurreyAnthony Crook Motors, HershamApaseal, HailshamApplied Power Industries Inc (UK), LondonArmco, LondonArmstrong Patents Co, YorkshireAston Martin Lagonda, FelthamAustin Motor Co, BirminghamAuto Transmissions, CoventryAutocar Electrical Equipment Co, LondonAutomotive Products Co, BanburyAvdel, HertfordshireAvon Electrical Services, WarwickAvon Rubber Co, Wiltshire B.M.W. Concessionaires SussexBarnacle, CroydonBar's Motor Products, WembleyBentley Motors (1931), LondonBergougnan Tyre Co, LondonBernard Wardle (Everflex), CaernarvonBertram Thomas (Engineers), HulmeBirmingham Aluminium Castings Co, BirminghamBluebird Caravans, PooleBluemel Brothers, CoventryBorg and Beck Co, Leamington SpaBorg-Warner, LetchworthBosch, LondonBound Brook Bearings, LichfieldBradville, LondonBrake Linings, BuxtonBramber Engineering Co LondonBricovmo, YorkshireBristol Cars, FiltonBritax (London), ByfleetBritish Aluminium Co, LondonBritish Belting and Asbestos, YorkshireBritish Extracting Tool Co, CroydonBritish Jaeger Instruments, LondonBritish Light Steel Pressings, LondonBritish Oxygen Co, LondonBritish Piston Ring Co, CoventryBritish Pneumatic Tools, FishpondsBritish Wire Products, Stourport-on-SevernBritool, WolverhamptonBroadfields Garage and Engineering Co, CockfostersBroom and Wade, High WycombeBrown Brothers, LondonBrown Bayley Steels, SheffieldBuck and Hickman, LondonButlers, Birmingham C. Lindley and Co, LondonC. A. V., LondonC. R. Tipping and Co, LeedsCannon Rubber Manufacturers, TottenhamCanterbury Industrial Products (Aveley) EssexCarbodies, CoventryCar Coverall, LondonCar Plates, BirminghamCastings, WalsallCastrol, London Caxton Name Plate Manufacturing Co, RichmondCeag, BarnsleyCentral Garage, BradfordCharles J. Neuman, CroydonChampion Sparking Plug Co, FelthamCharles Hanson and Son, BrighouseCharles Weston and Co, SalfordCharles Wright, EdgwareChloride Batteries, SwintonChrysler Motors, Richmond, SurreyCitroen Cars, SloughCommercial Ignition Co, HayesConnolly Brothers (Curriers), LondonConsolidated Pneumatic Tool Co, LondonConway Car Accessories, LondonCooper and Co (Birmingham)Coopers Mechanical Joints, SloughCords Piston Ring Co, LondonCornercroft Engineering, CoventryCounty Electrical Services, LutonCoventry Climax Engines, CoventryCoventry Radiator and Presswork Co, CoventryCox and Co (Watford), WatfordCreswell’s Asbestos CoCrompton Parkinson (Batteries), LondonCrypton Equipment, Bridgwater D. Wickham and Co, LondonD. H. Bonnella and Son, HoddesdonDaimler Co CoventryDartmouth Auto Castings, SmethwickDeans and Lightalloys, BeverleyDelaney Gallay, BarkingDermide, LeedsDesmo, StaffordshireDocker Brothers (A Division of Pinchin Johnson and Associates), BirminghamDodge Brothers, SurreyDonald Healey Motor Co, WarwickDoval (engineers), TeanDraftex, CoventryDualloys, ChardDunedin Engineering Co, LondonDunlop Rim and Wheel Co, CoventryDunlop Rubber Co, Erdington E Steiner, BirminghamE. D. Abbott, SurreyE. K. Cole, Southend-on SeaE. P. Barrus (Concessionaries), LondonE. N. V. Engineering Co, LondonEdmunds Walker and Co, LondonEngineering Productions (Clevedon), ClevedonEpco, LeedsEvershore Accessories, Old HillEwarts, DudleyExhaust Ejector Co, HalifaxExpress Electrical Services, Bristol F. Perkins, PeterboroughF. C. Heayberd and Co, LondonFairthorpe, BuckinghamshireFarnborough Engineering Co, FarnboroughFeeny and Johnson, WembleyFerodo, CheshireFirestone Tyre and Rubber Co, BrentfordFirth Cleveland Fastenings, PontypriddFisher and Ludlow, BirminghamFiat (England), WembleyFlexy Brushes, DerbyshireFord Motor Co, EssexForgings and Presswork, WittonFram Filters, Glamorgan G. Beaton and Son, LondonG. E. Jones and Sons (Machine parts), Hemel HempsteadG. K. N. Bolts and Nuts (Atlas Works Division), LondonG. K. N. Screws and FastenersGandy, WalleseyGeneral and Industrial Paints, GreenfordGeneral Motors of Canada, LondonGeneral Motors, LondonGeorge Salter and Co, West BromwichGeorge Angus and Co, WallsendGirling, BirminghamGlacier Metal Co, WembleyGlobe and Simpson, SheffieldGodfrey Holmes, LincolnGoodyear Tyre and Rubber Co, WolverhamptonGordon Tools, SheffieldGresham and Craven, Manchester H. J. Mulliner, Park Ward, LondonHairlok Co, BedfordHallam Sleigh and Cheston, BirminghamHalls Gaskets, SloughHardy Spicer and Co, ErdingtonHarmo Industries, BirminghamHarold Radford (Coachbuilders), LondonHarrison and Co (Lincoln), LincolnHarvey Frost and Co, StortfordHepworth and Grandage, YorkshireHerbert Terry and Sons, RedditchHertfordshire Rubber Co, LetchworthHillman Motor Car Co, CoventryHills Patent, LondonHobbs Transmission, Leamington SpaHolborn-Eaton Manufacturing Co, RochesterHubert H. P. Trist and Co, BrislingtonHughes-Johnson Stampings, BirminghamHumber, CoventryHydromechanics, Birmingham ICI (Hyde), CheshireImperial Chemical Industries (paints Division), SloughIndia Tyres, RenfrewIngersoll-Rand Co, LondonIntalok, NuneatonInternational Nickel Co (Mond), LondonIrving Air Chute of Great Britain, Letchworth J. Payen, SloughJ. A. Ryley, BirminghamJ. F. Sykes, St Anne’s-on-SeaJ. Gliksten and Son, LondonJ. W. Pickavant and Co, BirminghamJ. W. E. Banks and Sons, PeterboroughJ. P. White (Sidmouth), SidmouthJaguar Cars, CoventryJames Young and Co, BromleyJensen Motors, West BromwichJohn Bedford and Sons, SheffieldJohn Bull Rubber Co, LeicesterJohn Thompson Motor Pressings, WolverhamptonJonas Woodhead and Sons, LeedsJoseph Bradbury and Sons, BraintreeJoseph Lucas, BirminghamJoseph Sankey and Sons, WellingtonJudella Castings, South Ruislip K. F. Ward, StourbridgeKLG Sparking Plugs, RugbyKangol Magnet, CarlisleKarobes, Leamington SpaKelly-Springfield Tyre Co, LondonKenilworth Manufacturing Co, West DraytonKenlowe Accessories and Co, MaidenheadKerry's (Great Britain), LondonKey-Leather Co, LondonKingscote and Stephens, GloucesterKismet, BedfordKumficar (Sales), Halifax L. E. Perei Auto Devices, Sunbury-on-ThamesL. F. Brenner, SidcupL. H. NewtonLace Web Spring Co, NottinghamLake and Elliot, BraintreeLamson Paragon Supply Co, LondonLancia Concessionaires, WembleyLaycock Engineering, SheffieldLaystall Cromard, WolverhamptonLaystall Engineering Co, LondonLee Products (Great Britain), LondonLendrum and Hartman, LondonLeslie Hartridge, LondonLewis Berger (Great Britain), LondonLexington Products, WembleyLeys Malleable Castings Co, DerbyLincoln Cars, BrentfordLister Equipment, ManchesterLockheed Hydraulic Brake Co, Leamington SpaLondon Aluminium Co, WolverhamptonLondon Bankside Products, MiddlesexLotus Cars, ChestuntLyall Lusted and Brovex, Dorking M. G. Car Co, Abingdon-on-ThamesMagnatex, HayesManganese Bronze, IpswichManifoldia, West BromwichMann, Egerton and Co, NorwichMarchal Distributors, BrentfordMarley Foam, LenhamMarsham Tyre Co, LondonMartin Walter, FolkestoneMercedes-Benz (Great Britain), BrentfordMerlin Engineering, HalifaxMetalastik, LeicesterMichelin Tyre Co, Stoke-on TrentMidland Motor Cylinder Co, SmethwickMorgan Crossley and Co, ManchesterMorgan Motor Co, WorcestershireMorris and Ingram, LondonMorris Motors, OxfordMorrisfield Equipment Co, LondonMoss Gear Co, BirminghamMotor Caravan Bodies Newcastle upon TyneMotor Panels (Coventry), Coventry National Cash Register Co, LondonNew Welbeck, BrightonNorth British Rubber Co, EdinburghNSU (Great Britain) Oldham and Son, ManchesterOmes, LondonOtter Controls, Buxton Pang Chemical Vulcanizers, LondonPark Brothers, BlackburnParr Equipment Co, KensingtonParsons Chain Co, Stourport-on-SevernPatent Die-Casting Co, LondonPerformance Equipment Co, BirkenheadPhillips Electrical, RotherhamPinchin, Johnson and Co, LondonPioneer Oilsealing and Moulding Co, NelsonPirelli, LondonPlastifilm Products, BristolPneumatic Components, SheffieldPressed Steel Co, OxfordPrince Engineers, Kingston-upon-ThamesPritchett and Gold and E. P. S. Co, DagenhamProgress (Universal), AldershotProjectile and Engineering Co, LondonPye, CambridgePyrene Co, Brentford Qualcast, DerbyQuinton Hazell, Colwyn Bay R. J. Hunt and Son, BirminghamRally-Klad, GlasgowRambler Motors, LondonRaybestos-Belaco, LondonRaydyot, StaffordshireRaymond F. Thompson (Engineering), HarlowRedex, LondonRegency Covers, LondonRegent Axle Co, BurnleyReliant Engineering Co (Tamworth), TamworthRemax Electrical, LondonRenault, LondonRenold Chains, ManchesterRepco, LondonRiley Motors, Abingdon-on-ThamesRipaults, EnfieldRists Wires and Cables, NewcastleRival Lamps, WeybridgeRolls Royce, LondonRomac Industries, LondonRoss, Courtney and Co, LondonRover B.R.M. Gas Turbine CarRover Co, SolihullRubery Owen and Co, Wednesbury S. Smith and Sons (Radiomobile), LondonS. D. Sullam, LondonS. Smith and Sons (England), LondonS. U. Carburetter Co, BirminghamSailisbury Transmission, WittonSerck Radiators, BirminghamServais Silencers, LondonSharps Commercials PrestonSheepbridge Engineering, ChesterfieldSheepbridge Stokes, ChesterfieldShotton Brothers, OldburySilencers (Bolton), BoltonSilent Channel Co, HuntingdonSilentbloc, CrawleySilver Knight Lubricants, West BromwichSimca Motors (G.B.), LondonSimms Motor Units, LondonSinger Motors, CoventrySintered Metal Components, ChardSlip Products and Engineering Co, St. AlbansSmall and Parkes, ManchesterSmith-Clayton Forge, LincolnSmiths Jacking Systems, WitneySmiths Stamping Works (Coventry)Solex, LondonSpecialloid, LeedsStandard Triumph (Liverpool), LiverpoolStenor, Richmond, SurreySterling Instrument Co, CrewkerneSterling Metals, NuneatonSternol, LondonStevco-Y.F.C., OxfordStewart Warner, HarlowSunbeam Talbot, CoventrySuntester, BarkingSuper Oil Seals and Gaskets, BirminghamSutty Motor Accessories, Orpington T. F. Firth and Sons, YorkshireT. M. Birkett, Billington and Newton, Stoke-on TrentTapley Meters, TottonTecalemit (Engineering), PlymouthTelamite, BenthamTellus Super Vacuum Cleaner, SloughTempered Spring Co, TiptonTewel Industries, BlackburnThomson and Brown Brothers, EdinburghThomas and Taylor (Brooklands), ByfleetThomas Meldrum, SheffieldThornley and Knight, BirminghamThrupp and Maberly, LondonTitanine, LondonTintera, Westcliff-on-sea, EssexTip Top Vulcanising Products, RedhillTransport Brakes, BristolTriangle Products, HydeTrico-Folberth, BrentfordTriplex Foundry, TiptonTriplex Safety Glass Co, LondonTriumph Motor Co (1945), CoventryTrojan, CroydonTruepoint Motor Accessories, BristolTudor Accessories, HayesTungstone Products, Market Harborough U. S. Industries Inc. Engineering, WarringtonUniversal Ball Bearing Repair and Manufacturing Co, HammersmithUniversal Dampers, Solihull V. L. Churchill and Co, FelthamV. C. Saunders, LondonVacmobile Manufacturing Co, LondonValentine Varnish and Lacquer Co, West DraytonVanden Plas (England) 1923, LondonVandervell Products, LondonVauxhall Motors, LutonVitafoam, Manchester W. G. James, LondonWalters and Dobson, ChesterfieldWarne, Wright and Rowland, BirminghamWaso, LondonWeathershields, BirminghamWellworthy, LymingtonWestinghouse Brake and Signal Co, KingswoodWestinghouse Hobbs ManchesterWhitehouse Industries, PontefractWillenhall Motor Radiator Co, WillenhallWilmot Breeden, BirminghamWingard, ChichesterWipac Group Sales, BuckinghamWolseley Motors, OxfordWood Auto Supplies, HuddersfieldWorld Radio, London Yorkshire Factoring Co, Doncaster Zell-Em, BlackpoolZenith Carburettor Co, Stanmore Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 Going by the other photos of this show - and the seller has quite a few - it looks more European, possibly Geneva or Milan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said: it looks more European, possibly Geneva or Milan? I would agree. Looking in close up at some of the photos where there is background text I found a couple the seem to be in Italian and one in German. The top on the Triumph could have been a styling exercise to test reaction I suppose. Add me to the list of interested parties . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Longhurst Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Chris A said: The top on the Triumph could have been a styling exercise to test reaction I suppose. Agreed - I could see the Herald version being designed around the 'existing' rear glass from the TR4 Surrey Top as a 'styling exercise'. Maybe the Herald was parked next to the TR4 to show the design cues. What we need is someone with a both a TR4 & a Herald CV to measure up to check feasibility!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 i didnt look that close but its outside and a LHD guess that adds to the european clues i just jumped at earls court sorry Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 I've seen a couple of Herald/Vitesse hard tops with the rap-around rear screen over the years and missed out on one on ebay about 10 years ago. Not sure if it was exactly the same as the one pictured, but there is at least one other design out there other than the Honeybourne version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 I have a hard top with the rap around rear screen & sunroof for my Herald, but no idea who made it, needs a refurb, hopefully get it on next winter. Did put it on ebay but no bids ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfg Posted December 30, 2022 Report Share Posted December 30, 2022 On 28/12/2022 at 17:18, Chris Longhurst said: This photo was listed on eBay a few days ago (now sold) by an Australian seller as:- 'Triumph Herald Hardtop 1963 Motor Show Car Old Photo' Although the car is LHD I suspect the Herald 1200 Convertible may be on a Triumph Stand in the U.K. The hard top is rather nice with the wrap-around rear window; I don't recall seeing the design before; does anyone know if it was a Standard-Triumph offering? I edited this photo in photoshop, so that it was a tad clear for me old peepers, and as far as I can ascertain - the Herald looks to have also been fitted with a Surrey top, complete with removeable lid panel. I've never seen nor even heard of this before on a Herald but I like it. The back light looks so very similar to the TR4 (which looks to be a standard offering) that it may even use the same glass. I'd hazard a guess that the backlight's frame is a modified version of the TR4 one ..mostly altered in it having a side panel B-post The Herald's front corner of the cap rail, the detail of overlapping rear edge of the Surrey top lid, and the way the drip rail come back are all so similar to the design of TR4 surrey top. I might only assume Standard Triumph exhibited it to see if there was a viable market for such a roof. Certainly the back seat space would be airy with the wrap-around glass, but I'd guess it wouldn't be good for much of the Australian market - because scorching sun on back seat passenger's heads and neck is really very uncomfortable. Here in the UK though I think it might have been very interesting ..but for the extra cost added onto a bottom-budget saloon car. Still, should I buy another Herald or Vitesse then I'd certainly consider making one for myself. Thanks for sharing this Chris. Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 31, 2022 Report Share Posted December 31, 2022 12 hours ago, steveo said: I have a hard top with the rap around rear screen & sunroof for my Herald, but no idea who made it, needs a refurb, hopefully get it on next winter. Did put it on ebay but no bids ! Do you have the screen for that one? It could be hard to replicate - seals you can source, but the actual glass is a lot harder. Might put a few bidders off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted December 31, 2022 Report Share Posted December 31, 2022 Yes Colin I have the glass (Perspex) it needs new seals & catches, got the catches second hand off ebay listed as from an army generator cabinet. Now we are moving house I will have the space to keep it, so quite glad it didn't sell back it the summer as it looks good on the car, gives it the coupe look. Was going to order the seals but when I measured the thickness of the fiberglass it ranges quite a few millimetres so its never going to be water tight without some work to get it even. Being in Cornwall put buyers off, had a few ask if I could deliver it but all miles away, did offer local delivery. Cheers, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 31, 2022 Report Share Posted December 31, 2022 I have an S&D (Smith and Deakin?) version hanging on my wall, always meant to use it on the Herald but it's hanging quite high up and impossible for one person to take down alone... however never tried fitting it, so no idea of how well it seals. I don't think it would ever be 100% waterproof! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 Some great period photos of everyday Heralds on Facebook at present: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 14, 2023 Report Share Posted January 14, 2023 Another nice one found this morning: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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