Period Photos of Triumphs

[Gary Flinn]

I saw this too, one thing that stands out is I cannot see one foreign car, or is that an NSU at the top?

 

[Chris Longhurst]

Mathewson's Auction site back in the late 1970s.  It's still as crammed today judging by the TV series!

[Mike Costigan]

The white car at the top is a Simca 1000.

 

My guess is the compound of an auction house; apart from the MkVII Jaguar in the top left they are all early to mid-1960s, and not a reflective plate in sight so probably taken around 1968/69 when they were all about five to seven years old.

[Colin Lindsay]

If you look closely at some of them you can see what appear to be personal effects; not only the L plate but objects sitting on the dashboards or inside the cars. 

[PeteH]

I would tend to favour a BCA site (British Car Auctions), But the Ford Corsair in the bottom of the photo, appears to have what may have been the original Orange Disabled Badge in the window. so I wonder if it is a recovered car compound?. My son`s both did Valeting work weekends in the 80`s,for BCA Camberley as teens, a lot of cars came in with personal stuff still in them. (And more!!)

Pete

[Pete Lewis]

i wondered about airport parking cowboys 

Pete

[Chris Longhurst]

 

This photo was listed on eBay a few days ago (now sold) by an Australian seller as:- 'Triumph Herald Hardtop 1963 Motor Show Car Old Photo'

Although the car is LHD I suspect the Herald 1200 Convertible may be  on a Triumph Stand in the U.K.

The hard top is rather nice with the wrap-around rear window; I don't recall seeing the design before; does anyone know if it was a Standard-Triumph offering?

 

[NonMember]

13 minutes ago, Chris Longhurst said:

does anyone know if it was a Standard-Triumph offering?

The TR4? next to it has a very similar style hardtop. Presumably either both or neither were ST offerings.

[Colin Lindsay]

1 hour ago, Chris Longhurst said:

The hard top is rather nice with the wrap-around rear window; I don't recall seeing the design before; does anyone know if it was a Standard-Triumph offering?

It's a very nice design; I'd go for one!

[Peter Truman]

Do you think the Vitesse/Herald offering could be TR4 Surrey Style ie removable top section, seeing the lid appears to overhang the rear window. Anyway its attractive and like Colin I'd definitely have one!

The TR4 offering alongside almost looks like a standard ST Surrey Top except the short near vertical fitting above the B Post, or is that just light/shadow.

[thescrapman]

The TR Surrey top looks standard to me.

[PeteH]

Either way, It makes a Nice looking Coupe?.

A "one off" modified from a Herald (saloon) Roof?. It look`s a bit Expensive?.

Pete

[Pete Lewis]

we need a 1963 trader plan for the 63 motor show ( i guess Earls Court  RIP)  to find a likley trader to aid the search 

well here goes  its possible one of these   

1963 Motor Show

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October 1963. Motor Show catalogue.

Note: This is a sub-section of Motor Show Catalogues

A list of the exhibitors at the 48th International Motor Exhibition held at Earl's Court, London in October 16th to 26th.

Foreign companies and those that are non-industrial (like insurance and publishing) have been excluded from this list.

A. C. Buchanan (Motor Spares), Birmingham
A. C. Cars, Surrey
A. C. Withnell, Ashford
A. F. N.. Isleworth
A. P. Newall and Co
A. R. O. Machinery Co, London
A. Schraders Son Division of Scovill Manufacturing Co, Erdington
A. W. Chapman, London
AC-Delco Division of General Motors, Dunstable
Acton Bolt
Advance Motor Supplies, Chesterfield
Aeon Products (London), London
Aerograph-DeVilbiss Co, West Howe
Aeropreen, High Wycombe
Air Industrial Developments, Shenstone
Aircraft-Marine Products, London
Airflow Streamlines, Northampton
Alexander Duckham and Co, London
Alford and Alder (Engineers), Hemel Hempstead
Alvis, Coventry
Andre Rubber Co, Surrey
Anthony Crook Motors, Hersham
Apaseal, Hailsham
Applied Power Industries Inc (UK), London
Armco, London
Armstrong Patents Co, Yorkshire
Aston Martin Lagonda, Feltham
Austin Motor Co, Birmingham
Auto Transmissions, Coventry
Autocar Electrical Equipment Co, London
Automotive Products Co, Banbury
Avdel, Hertfordshire
Avon Electrical Services, Warwick
Avon Rubber Co, Wiltshire

B.M.W. Concessionaires Sussex
Barnacle, Croydon
Bar's Motor Products, Wembley
Bentley Motors (1931), London
Bergougnan Tyre Co, London
Bernard Wardle (Everflex), Caernarvon
Bertram Thomas (Engineers), Hulme
Birmingham Aluminium Castings Co, Birmingham
Bluebird Caravans, Poole
Bluemel Brothers, Coventry
Borg and Beck Co, Leamington Spa
Borg-Warner, Letchworth
Bosch, London
Bound Brook Bearings, Lichfield
Bradville, London
Brake Linings, Buxton
Bramber Engineering Co London
Bricovmo, Yorkshire
Bristol Cars, Filton
Britax (London), Byfleet
British Aluminium Co, London
British Belting and Asbestos, Yorkshire
British Extracting Tool Co, Croydon
British Jaeger Instruments, London
British Light Steel Pressings, London
British Oxygen Co, London
British Piston Ring Co, Coventry
British Pneumatic Tools, Fishponds
British Wire Products, Stourport-on-Severn
Britool, Wolverhampton
Broadfields Garage and Engineering Co, Cockfosters
Broom and Wade, High Wycombe
Brown Brothers, London
Brown Bayley Steels, Sheffield
Buck and Hickman, London
Butlers, Birmingham

C. Lindley and Co, London
C. A. V., London
C. R. Tipping and Co, Leeds
Cannon Rubber Manufacturers, Tottenham
Canterbury Industrial Products (Aveley) Essex
Carbodies, Coventry
Car Coverall, London
Car Plates, Birmingham
Castings, Walsall
Castrol, London Caxton Name Plate Manufacturing Co, Richmond
Ceag, Barnsley
Central Garage, Bradford
Charles J. Neuman, Croydon
Champion Sparking Plug Co, Feltham
Charles Hanson and Son, Brighouse
Charles Weston and Co, Salford
Charles Wright, Edgware
Chloride Batteries, Swinton
Chrysler Motors, Richmond, Surrey
Citroen Cars, Slough
Commercial Ignition Co, Hayes
Connolly Brothers (Curriers), London
Consolidated Pneumatic Tool Co, London
Conway Car Accessories, London
Cooper and Co (Birmingham)
Coopers Mechanical Joints, Slough
Cords Piston Ring Co, London
Cornercroft Engineering, Coventry
County Electrical Services, Luton
Coventry Climax Engines, Coventry
Coventry Radiator and Presswork Co, Coventry
Cox and Co (Watford), Watford
Creswell’s Asbestos Co
Crompton Parkinson (Batteries), London
Crypton Equipment, Bridgwater

D. Wickham and Co, London
D. H. Bonnella and Son, Hoddesdon
Daimler Co Coventry
Dartmouth Auto Castings, Smethwick
Deans and Lightalloys, Beverley
Delaney Gallay, Barking
Dermide, Leeds
Desmo, Staffordshire
Docker Brothers (A Division of Pinchin Johnson and Associates), Birmingham
Dodge Brothers, Surrey
Donald Healey Motor Co, Warwick
Doval (engineers), Tean
Draftex, Coventry
Dualloys, Chard
Dunedin Engineering Co, London
Dunlop Rim and Wheel Co, Coventry
Dunlop Rubber Co, Erdington

E Steiner, Birmingham
E. D. Abbott, Surrey
E. K. Cole, Southend-on Sea
E. P. Barrus (Concessionaries), London
E. N. V. Engineering Co, London
Edmunds Walker and Co, London
Engineering Productions (Clevedon), Clevedon
Epco, Leeds
Evershore Accessories, Old Hill
Ewarts, Dudley
Exhaust Ejector Co, Halifax
Express Electrical Services, Bristol

F. Perkins, Peterborough
F. C. Heayberd and Co, London
Fairthorpe, Buckinghamshire
Farnborough Engineering Co, Farnborough
Feeny and Johnson, Wembley
Ferodo, Cheshire
Firestone Tyre and Rubber Co, Brentford
Firth Cleveland Fastenings, Pontypridd
Fisher and Ludlow, Birmingham
Fiat (England), Wembley
Flexy Brushes, Derbyshire
Ford Motor Co, Essex
Forgings and Presswork, Witton
Fram Filters, Glamorgan

G. Beaton and Son, London
G. E. Jones and Sons (Machine parts), Hemel Hempstead
G. K. N. Bolts and Nuts (Atlas Works Division), London
G. K. N. Screws and Fasteners
Gandy, Wallesey
General and Industrial Paints, Greenford
General Motors of Canada, London
General Motors, London
George Salter and Co, West Bromwich
George Angus and Co, Wallsend
Girling, Birmingham
Glacier Metal Co, Wembley
Globe and Simpson, Sheffield
Godfrey Holmes, Lincoln
Goodyear Tyre and Rubber Co, Wolverhampton
Gordon Tools, Sheffield
Gresham and Craven, Manchester

H. J. Mulliner, Park Ward, London
Hairlok Co, Bedford
Hallam Sleigh and Cheston, Birmingham
Halls Gaskets, Slough
Hardy Spicer and Co, Erdington
Harmo Industries, Birmingham
Harold Radford (Coachbuilders), London
Harrison and Co (Lincoln), Lincoln
Harvey Frost and Co, Stortford
Hepworth and Grandage, Yorkshire
Herbert Terry and Sons, Redditch
Hertfordshire Rubber Co, Letchworth
Hillman Motor Car Co, Coventry
Hills Patent, London
Hobbs Transmission, Leamington Spa
Holborn-Eaton Manufacturing Co, Rochester
Hubert H. P. Trist and Co, Brislington
Hughes-Johnson Stampings, Birmingham
Humber, Coventry
Hydromechanics, Birmingham

ICI (Hyde), Cheshire
Imperial Chemical Industries (paints Division), Slough
India Tyres, Renfrew
Ingersoll-Rand Co, London
Intalok, Nuneaton
International Nickel Co (Mond), London
Irving Air Chute of Great Britain, Letchworth

J. Payen, Slough
J. A. Ryley, Birmingham
J. F. Sykes, St Anne’s-on-Sea
J. Gliksten and Son, London
J. W. Pickavant and Co, Birmingham
J. W. E. Banks and Sons, Peterborough
J. P. White (Sidmouth), Sidmouth
Jaguar Cars, Coventry
James Young and Co, Bromley
Jensen Motors, West Bromwich
John Bedford and Sons, Sheffield
John Bull Rubber Co, Leicester
John Thompson Motor Pressings, Wolverhampton
Jonas Woodhead and Sons, Leeds
Joseph Bradbury and Sons, Braintree
Joseph Lucas, Birmingham
Joseph Sankey and Sons, Wellington
Judella Castings, South Ruislip

K. F. Ward, Stourbridge
KLG Sparking Plugs, Rugby
Kangol Magnet, Carlisle
Karobes, Leamington Spa
Kelly-Springfield Tyre Co, London
Kenilworth Manufacturing Co, West Drayton
Kenlowe Accessories and Co, Maidenhead
Kerry's (Great Britain), London
Key-Leather Co, London
Kingscote and Stephens, Gloucester
Kismet, Bedford
Kumficar (Sales), Halifax

L. E. Perei Auto Devices, Sunbury-on-Thames
L. F. Brenner, Sidcup
L. H. Newton
Lace Web Spring Co, Nottingham
Lake and Elliot, Braintree
Lamson Paragon Supply Co, London
Lancia Concessionaires, Wembley
Laycock Engineering, Sheffield
Laystall Cromard, Wolverhampton
Laystall Engineering Co, London
Lee Products (Great Britain), London
Lendrum and Hartman, London
Leslie Hartridge, London
Lewis Berger (Great Britain), London
Lexington Products, Wembley
Leys Malleable Castings Co, Derby
Lincoln Cars, Brentford
Lister Equipment, Manchester
Lockheed Hydraulic Brake Co, Leamington Spa
London Aluminium Co, Wolverhampton
London Bankside Products, Middlesex
Lotus Cars, Chestunt
Lyall Lusted and Brovex, Dorking

M. G. Car Co, Abingdon-on-Thames
Magnatex, Hayes
Manganese Bronze, Ipswich
Manifoldia, West Bromwich
Mann, Egerton and Co, Norwich
Marchal Distributors, Brentford
Marley Foam, Lenham
Marsham Tyre Co, London
Martin Walter, Folkestone
Mercedes-Benz (Great Britain), Brentford
Merlin Engineering, Halifax
Metalastik, Leicester
Michelin Tyre Co, Stoke-on Trent
Midland Motor Cylinder Co, Smethwick
Morgan Crossley and Co, Manchester
Morgan Motor Co, Worcestershire
Morris and Ingram, London
Morris Motors, Oxford
Morrisfield Equipment Co, London
Moss Gear Co, Birmingham
Motor Caravan Bodies Newcastle upon Tyne
Motor Panels (Coventry), Coventry

National Cash Register Co, London
New Welbeck, Brighton
North British Rubber Co, Edinburgh
NSU (Great Britain)

Oldham and Son, Manchester
Omes, London
Otter Controls, Buxton

Pang Chemical Vulcanizers, London
Park Brothers, Blackburn
Parr Equipment Co, Kensington
Parsons Chain Co, Stourport-on-Severn
Patent Die-Casting Co, London
Performance Equipment Co, Birkenhead
Phillips Electrical, Rotherham
Pinchin, Johnson and Co, London
Pioneer Oilsealing and Moulding Co, Nelson
Pirelli, London
Plastifilm Products, Bristol
Pneumatic Components, Sheffield
Pressed Steel Co, Oxford
Prince Engineers, Kingston-upon-Thames
Pritchett and Gold and E. P. S. Co, Dagenham
Progress (Universal), Aldershot
Projectile and Engineering Co, London
Pye, Cambridge
Pyrene Co, Brentford

Qualcast, Derby
Quinton Hazell, Colwyn Bay

R. J. Hunt and Son, Birmingham
Rally-Klad, Glasgow
Rambler Motors, London
Raybestos-Belaco, London
Raydyot, Staffordshire
Raymond F. Thompson (Engineering), Harlow
Redex, London
Regency Covers, London
Regent Axle Co, Burnley
Reliant Engineering Co (Tamworth), Tamworth
Remax Electrical, London
Renault, London
Renold Chains, Manchester
Repco, London
Riley Motors, Abingdon-on-Thames
Ripaults, Enfield
Rists Wires and Cables, Newcastle
Rival Lamps, Weybridge
Rolls Royce, London
Romac Industries, London
Ross, Courtney and Co, London
Rover B.R.M. Gas Turbine Car
Rover Co, Solihull
Rubery Owen and Co, Wednesbury

S. Smith and Sons (Radiomobile), London
S. D. Sullam, London
S. Smith and Sons (England), London
S. U. Carburetter Co, Birmingham
Sailisbury Transmission, Witton
Serck Radiators, Birmingham
Servais Silencers, London
Sharps Commercials Preston
Sheepbridge Engineering, Chesterfield
Sheepbridge Stokes, Chesterfield
Shotton Brothers, Oldbury
Silencers (Bolton), Bolton
Silent Channel Co, Huntingdon
Silentbloc, Crawley
Silver Knight Lubricants, West Bromwich
Simca Motors (G.B.), London
Simms Motor Units, London
Singer Motors, Coventry
Sintered Metal Components, Chard
Slip Products and Engineering Co, St. Albans
Small and Parkes, Manchester
Smith-Clayton Forge, Lincoln
Smiths Jacking Systems, Witney
Smiths Stamping Works (Coventry)
Solex, London
Specialloid, Leeds
Standard Triumph (Liverpool), Liverpool
Stenor, Richmond, Surrey
Sterling Instrument Co, Crewkerne
Sterling Metals, Nuneaton
Sternol, London
Stevco-Y.F.C., Oxford
Stewart Warner, Harlow
Sunbeam Talbot, Coventry
Suntester, Barking
Super Oil Seals and Gaskets, Birmingham
Sutty Motor Accessories, Orpington

T. F. Firth and Sons, Yorkshire
T. M. Birkett, Billington and Newton, Stoke-on Trent
Tapley Meters, Totton
Tecalemit (Engineering), Plymouth
Telamite, Bentham
Tellus Super Vacuum Cleaner, Slough
Tempered Spring Co, Tipton
Tewel Industries, Blackburn
Thomson and Brown Brothers, Edinburgh
Thomas and Taylor (Brooklands), Byfleet
Thomas Meldrum, Sheffield
Thornley and Knight, Birmingham
Thrupp and Maberly, London
Titanine, London
Tintera, Westcliff-on-sea, Essex
Tip Top Vulcanising Products, Redhill
Transport Brakes, Bristol
Triangle Products, Hyde
Trico-Folberth, Brentford
Triplex Foundry, Tipton
Triplex Safety Glass Co, London
Triumph Motor Co (1945), Coventry
Trojan, Croydon
Truepoint Motor Accessories, Bristol
Tudor Accessories, Hayes
Tungstone Products, Market Harborough

U. S. Industries Inc. Engineering, Warrington
Universal Ball Bearing Repair and Manufacturing Co, Hammersmith
Universal Dampers, Solihull

V. L. Churchill and Co, Feltham
V. C. Saunders, London
Vacmobile Manufacturing Co, London
Valentine Varnish and Lacquer Co, West Drayton
Vanden Plas (England) 1923, London
Vandervell Products, London
Vauxhall Motors, Luton
Vitafoam, Manchester

W. G. James, London
Walters and Dobson, Chesterfield
Warne, Wright and Rowland, Birmingham
Waso, London
Weathershields, Birmingham
Wellworthy, Lymington
Westinghouse Brake and Signal Co, Kingswood
Westinghouse Hobbs Manchester
Whitehouse Industries, Pontefract
Willenhall Motor Radiator Co, Willenhall
Wilmot Breeden, Birmingham
Wingard, Chichester
Wipac Group Sales, Buckingham
Wolseley Motors, Oxford
Wood Auto Supplies, Huddersfield
World Radio, London

Yorkshire Factoring Co, Doncaster

Zell-Em, Blackpool
Zenith Carburettor Co, Stanmore

Pete

[Colin Lindsay]

Going by the other photos of this show - and the seller has quite a few - it looks more European, possibly Geneva or Milan?

[Chris A]

36 minutes ago, Colin Lindsay said:

it looks more European, possibly Geneva or Milan?

I would agree. Looking in close up at some of the photos where there is background text I found a couple the seem to be in Italian and one in German.

The top on the Triumph could have been a styling exercise to test reaction I suppose.

Add me to the list of interested parties . .

[Chris Longhurst]

1 hour ago, Chris A said:

The top on the Triumph could have been a styling exercise to test reaction I suppose.

 

Agreed - I could see the Herald version being designed around the 'existing' rear glass from the TR4 Surrey Top as a 'styling exercise'. Maybe the Herald was parked next to the TR4 to show the design cues.

What we need is someone with a both a TR4 & a Herald CV to measure up to check feasibility!!

 

[Pete Lewis]

i didnt look that close but its outside and a  LHD  guess that adds to the european  clues  i just jumped at earls court    sorry 

Pete

[Mark B]

I've seen a couple of Herald/Vitesse hard tops with the rap-around rear screen over the years and missed out on one on ebay about 10 years ago. Not sure if it was exactly the same as the one pictured, but there is at least one other design out there other than the Honeybourne version.

[steveo]

I have a hard top with the rap around rear screen & sunroof for my Herald, but no idea who made it, needs a refurb, hopefully get it on next winter.

Did put it on ebay but no bids !

[Bfg]

On 28/12/2022 at 17:18, Chris Longhurst said:

 

This photo was listed on eBay a few days ago (now sold) by an Australian seller as:- 'Triumph Herald Hardtop 1963 Motor Show Car Old Photo'

Although the car is LHD I suspect the Herald 1200 Convertible may be  on a Triumph Stand in the U.K.

The hard top is rather nice with the wrap-around rear window; I don't recall seeing the design before; does anyone know if it was a Standard-Triumph offering?

 

I edited this photo in photoshop, so that it was a tad clear for me old peepers, and as far as I can ascertain - the Herald looks to have also been fitted with a Surrey top, complete with removeable lid panel. I've never seen nor even heard of this before on a Herald but I like it.

The back light looks so very similar to the TR4 (which looks to be a standard offering) that it may even use the same glass. I'd hazard a guess that the backlight's frame is a modified version of the TR4 one ..mostly altered in it having a side panel B-post  The Herald's front corner of the cap rail, the detail of overlapping rear edge of the Surrey top lid, and the way the drip rail come back are all so similar to the design of TR4 surrey top.   

I might only assume Standard Triumph exhibited it to see if there was a viable market for such a roof.  Certainly the back seat space would be airy with the wrap-around glass, but I'd guess it wouldn't be good for much of the Australian market - because scorching sun on back seat passenger's heads and neck is really very uncomfortable.  Here in the UK though I think it might have been very interesting ..but for the extra cost added onto a bottom-budget saloon car.   

Still, should I buy another Herald or Vitesse then I'd certainly consider making one for myself.   Thanks for sharing this Chris. 

Pete

 

[Colin Lindsay]

12 hours ago, steveo said:

I have a hard top with the rap around rear screen & sunroof for my Herald, but no idea who made it, needs a refurb, hopefully get it on next winter.

Did put it on ebay but no bids !

Do you have the screen for that one? It could be hard to replicate - seals you can source, but the actual glass is a lot harder. Might put a few bidders off!

[steveo]

Yes Colin I have the glass (Perspex) it needs new seals & catches, got the catches second hand off ebay listed as from an army generator cabinet.

Now we are moving house I will have the space to keep it, so quite glad it didn't sell back it the summer as it looks good on the car, gives it the coupe look.

Was going to order the seals but when  I measured the thickness of the fiberglass it ranges quite a few millimetres so its never going to be water tight without some work to get it even.

Being in Cornwall put buyers off, had a few ask if I could deliver it but all miles away, did offer local delivery.

Cheers, Steve.

[Colin Lindsay]

I have an S&D (Smith and Deakin?) version hanging on my wall, always meant to use it on the Herald but it's hanging quite high up and impossible for one person to take down alone... however never tried fitting it, so no idea of how well it seals. I don't think it would ever be 100% waterproof!

[Colin Lindsay]

Some great period photos of everyday Heralds on Facebook at present:

 

 

[Colin Lindsay]

Another nice one found this morning: