Jeffds1360 Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Outlet is over 7mm? It is in my little herald:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark powell Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Certainly looks like one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 As far as Iam aware 13.60 and Vitesse are the same. I recall differences on some early tanks where the sender unit is held in by several screws, but this may have only been on the narrow Herald tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Vitesse or later Herald. There may be detail differences between the two but both are the larger capacity. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 My 1968 MK 1 2 litre Vitesse has the six screw sender,i have owned it since 1985 so i have no reason to believe it isn`t the original tank. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 My Vitesse 2L MK1 has the original same large tank and the sender is the 6 hole type👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 there are 3 senders two are for stabilised gauges can be 6 hole or bayonet the odd one is early 6 hole for non stabilised gauges so more early herald and 1600 you can fit a six hole sender into bayonet tank by trimming it around the holes pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Herald 948 / 1200 on left, 13/60 and Vitesse on right. The bigger tank was made by enlarging the outer side, so the seam is central on the smaller tanks but off to the filler side on larger, plus there's a supporting foot on the larger that screws into the side of the spare wheel well. There's also a difference in the size of the curved metal outlet pipe, the larger tank has a larger pipe - I'm assuming this was for all rather than just 6-cylinder cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Looks Exactly like Mine?. (13/60). Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 The owners hand book for the 13/60 states 6 1/2 gallons (29.5 litres). Which is what is fitted to mine. I thought the larger tank was Vitesse and late 13/60s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 i fitted a new fitchetts tank in the Vit6 these are herald size quite big enough for my use and gained a good few inches in the boot and they dont have the nasty drain spout Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 9, 2021 Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chris A said: The owners hand book for the 13/60 states 6 1/2 gallons (29.5 litres). Which is what is fitted to mine. I thought the larger tank was Vitesse and late 13/60s You being ageist??? I think you're correct, it's only the last 13/60s had the larger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted December 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2021 Right, thanks. It must be vitesse/late 13/60, which it is. Therefore 5/16" outlet. Typical that I got 1/4" rubber to renew it with eeeeh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Mine`s a 71, (70 Build) with the larger tank. However I believe that, from the internal condition, it to be a replacement. A lot of work/replacement had been done over the last 20 years, according to the "file". Just the body/chassis neglected (sadly). When I had the body off, I replaced the whole fuel pipework with 8mm Copper. one length front to rear. where it goes through outriggers it`s sleeved with plastic, and clipped periodically. The tank is on the shelf in the background. Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 hours ago, PeteH said: The tank is on the shelf in the background. Ha you wont need a pump with the tank up there !! Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Is this bit just a trick of the light? Looks like a small pipe stuck inside a wider one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 It does look very much like a bit of 1/4" pipe inside a length of 5/16" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 Perhaps that is the plastic sleeve PeteH refers to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted December 10, 2021 Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 My Mk2 Vitesse now has the small tank, which was NOS or CKD here, I had to replace the old larger tank as it was rusty. It does mean I carry a 2 gallon reserve can in the boot. The smaller tank does mean you have to anticipate and fill up frequently with a 6 potter 2 lt engine, esp with the distances we cover in this big wide land! Don't ask me why I had a rusty tank I didn't till I loaned my good one to a fellow club member as his was leaking and he sold his car with my tank still in it, so I inherited a holey one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2021 So are the outlet and pipework all 1/4" on the small tank and 5/16" on the larger vitesse and late 13/60? My late 13/60 has 5/16 outlet and also the first pipe section then reverts to 1/4 for all the rest !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Jeff I had the 8 and 7mm copper pipe and the fittings from another (Motor-home gas related job) which was slightly short, with a reducing fitting I extended it with the 7mm to the engine bay. Where they pass through gaps in the outriggers they are in protective sleeving, an attempt to protect from fretting and failure. The same applies where they pass through panels etc; (The Black Bits). You are viewing the “trial phase”. Hope your Chemo Goes OK. They are alleged to be far less aggressive now, than even 10 years ago, when my mate was undergoing it. Good Luck Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 14 hours ago, Jeffds1360 said: So are the outlet and pipework all 1/4" on the small tank and 5/16" on the larger vitesse and late 13/60? My late 13/60 has 5/16 outlet and also the first pipe section then reverts to 1/4 for all the rest !! I'll be replacing the 13/60 tank in the New Year and will just connect a suitable rubber hose to the tank outlet then run a length of 1/4" all the way to the pump. I don't see any benefit in having a join between two different sizes of metal pipe, especially when it's only the 4-cylinder engine. I haven't checked the actual size of the currently fitted pipe, but suspect that it's 1/4" for the 13/60 and 5/16" for the Vitesse, same as the GT6 was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Yes. I now have two new Rimmers pumps pushing 4.5psi..... anyone need? My old one pushes <2.5 so is going back on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted December 11, 2021 Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 As was found on the other thread I mentioned, the Triumph workshop manual indicates that a higher output pressure than recommended is quite possible and the solution is to pack out the pump from the mounting on the block so reducing the travel of the operating lever on the cam and dropping the pressure. This is logical and seems to work so theres probably nothing wrong with the Rimmers pumps. In fact it wouldnt surprise me at all if, after some use, the pressure of a new pump drops anyway as its spring weakens👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffds1360 Posted December 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2021 Yea Johny, I set up a test and can 'adjust' the pressure down to 2 psi just by spacing out the lever from the cam action. After all of that I'm putting the old one back on as my problem was a split pipe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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