daverclasper Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: i used some shim stock rolled around the piston and a couple of jubilee clips to clamp it up Cheers Pete. Need a bit more of old school ways I reckon (not enough of it about), to get around things Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 these days i would up this to any full band clamp as jubs are not overly at the screw frame Mikalor are better eg ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Trying to make up a list but does anyone have a list of all the gaskets and part numbers for a Mk2 vitesse / GT6 engine please? I'm sure I am missing some Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 most would but a head set and conversion set for the bottom end most listed on here https://rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID007976 what do you think is missing ??? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Thanks Pete - that looks comprehensive Is there a method to remove the timing cover oil seal? TBH I didn't really notice it until now Can it be pulled / levered out ?? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Going back to exhaust clamps, can you get enough force on the Mikalors vs U bolt clamps? I only ask as I have the s/steel exhaust system. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, Iain T said: Going back to exhaust clamps, can you get enough force on the Mikalors vs U bolt clamps? I only ask as I have the s/steel exhaust system. Iain simple answer is yes. To me the big advantage is that the exhaust doe not get "crimped" so will come apart again. I am a fan of Mikalor clamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain T Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Thanks Clive, I like the idea of the uniform clamping force. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, AidanT said: Can it be pulled / levered out ?? its fitted from the back of the cover so you can just tap or lever it out a word of warning some new seals with a plastic surround dont fit well and can fall in, a metal cased seal is best if you can find one the cover location is quite shallow ive not had a plastic one ever fit well Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Clark Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Payen timing case oil seals (part no. NA750) are OE quality and can still be found: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Timing-cover-oil-seal-Triumph-Vitesse-GT6-TR5-TR6-Payen-NA759-D627/323109376167?hash=item4b3ad1d0a7:g:PKwAAOSwyz5amCfm But best of all, is the leather lip seal sold by Chris Witor: https://www.chriswitor.com/proddetail.php?prod=UKC110L Remember to soak it in engine oil overnight before fitting. It's expensive but was the only seal that worked on my GT6's 2500S engine, and I tried several. Chris claims they are best for 'hard to seal' timing covers. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Unfortunately the one in the first link isnt a Payen, its a CACO equivalent to the Payen number☹️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Hi Recommendations on an assembly oil or grease please (I assume something with high ZDDP?) thx Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 me j..............ust engine oil and LM grease for a smear on oil seal journals pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppyman Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Plus one for above.... Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger K Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 As a personal choice, I always use an engine assembly lubricant such as Permatex; there are many options around. Apparently, if you look hard enough, it's possible to spot some being used in this video, but so far I haven't managed to spot it. Nigella, eat your heart out. Roger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 just like triumph did !!! fill with oil and run up on a test bed probably used town gas not petrol some engines were often back to back , one drives the other used as a brake/load common mass production of the day thrown down the assembly line and now 50 yrs on and having done 20,000 miles a year in the hey day and we need to gold standard every move this is the old utopia on a crappy old engine not F1 or ferrari techy. with all the wrong things happening they plod on after 50 yrs of service and guys spend a fortune so it can sit in a field with the bonnet up or have an extreme outing once a month very few manage 5k a year so time to keep things sensible I might change my idea after this afternoons Jab Ha Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger K Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Ha! Enjoy your jab - I spent most of yesterday giving those 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Roger K said: Ha! Enjoy your jab - I spent most of yesterday giving those Were you supposed to be? Or did you just look like you were supposed to be there and got away with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger K Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 I'm retired, but volunteered to go back and do some sessions. Bit tricky to blag your way in, the paperwork is horrendous! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 well done Roger Hats off Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 9 hours ago, Roger K said: I'm retired, but volunteered to go back and do some sessions. Bit tricky to blag your way in, the paperwork is horrendous! Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Flinn Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 On 21/01/2021 at 09:39, AidanT said: Hi Recommendations on an assembly oil or grease please (I assume something with high ZDDP?) thx Aidan Aidan I used an assembly Paste called Graphogen when I rebuilt my Vitesse engine, I had it recommended to me? I also used proper Piper Cam Lube on the New Camshaft and followers as recommended by Piper. If fitting a new Cam & Followers make sure you follow the Manufacturers instructions? I also ensured there was plenty of Engine oil around the Piston rings and bores, stagger the rings too before inserting in the Bores. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AidanT Posted January 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 Hi Thanks for the advice - My concern is once rebuilt it may be a little while before its fired up for the first time. I have to remove the current engine but also want to clean up and probably repaint the firewall as its half coated in what looks like underseal Aidan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Clark Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Gary Flinn said: Aiden I used an assembly Paste called Graphogen when I rebuilt my Vitesse engine, I had it recommended to me? I also used proper Piper Cam Lube on the New Camshaft and followers as recommended by Piper. If fitting a new Cam & Followers make sure you follow the Manufacturers instructions? I also ensured there was plenty of Engine oil around the Piston rings and bores, stagger the rings too before inserting in the Bores. Regards Graphogen is used in the trade when rebuilding Triumph engines. Nigel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger K Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 Out of interest - is a cam break-in procedure recommended for new cams installed in the six-pot? It's very important at first fire-up in American V8s with flat-tappet cams, so I would presume it would be a good idea in a Triumph as these are also flat-tappet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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