Andrew Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 Just a bit of advice please. Is it advisable to change gear box oil and if so what intervals. Second is it just a case of draining the oil through the drain hole as per draining engine oil I presume there is nothing attached to the drain hole plug. Car is a herald 13/60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 No interval given, on the basis the oil was for life. However, the life was not expected to be 10 years, let alone 50.... So a change will do absolutely no harm and will probably be a good move. Yes, drain via the drain plug, which if a hex head has a magnet attached, likely to have some swarf attached (normal) Refill with 80/90 80-90 ep oil, of GL4 spec (NOT GL5) available all sorts of places (halfords, club shop etc etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 At least they provided a drain plug, unlike the diff! Newish member, Andrew? Tell us about the car? With pictures, of course! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 Maybe a good idea to run the car for a few miles to warm the oil, as drains better. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted December 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 Thanks guys will change my gearbox oil as part of a new year service. When I have figured how to attache pictures will do some of my car regards andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted December 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 As requested guys 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 A very nice looking example 👏 I love that version of the steering wheel and would love one for my 13/60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qu1ckn1ck Posted December 30, 2018 Report Share Posted December 30, 2018 That looks very tidy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 15 hours ago, Chris A said: A very nice looking example 👏 I love that version of the steering wheel and would love one for my 13/60 One on eBay at present, but not cheap. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-herald-vitesse-steering-column-complete-kit-car/362498595066?hash=item54669998fa:g:qJ4AAOSw84ZcAVfS Ignore THIS guy who has an over-inflated sense of value: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIUMPH-VITESSE-HERALD-PARTS-VITESSE-STEERING-WHEEL-AND-COLUMN-OVERDRIVE/143060545934?hash=item214f12b18e:g:yMMAAOSw00ZZ4K9O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerguzzi Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 16 hours ago, Chris A said: A very nice looking example 👏 I love that version of the steering wheel and would love one for my 13/60 Hello Chris Is this the type you want? It is 15" diameter and about 4" offset It is not in perfect condition as you can see but I expect a light rub down and repaint with a suitable paint would have looking like new There are a couple of small cracks but nothing to worry about. PM me with an offer if you want it(less than Fleabay ones) Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 On 31/12/2018 at 15:53, rogerguzzi said: Hello Chris Is this the type you want? It is 15" diameter and about 4" offset It is not in perfect condition as you can see but I expect a light rub down and repaint with a suitable paint would have looking like new There are a couple of small cracks but nothing to worry about. PM me with an offer if you want it(less than Fleabay ones) Roger Hi Roger, I'll try and sent a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Are these steering wheels identical to those used as an upgrade on the Morris Minor ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 They had a lot of uses back in the day; the top one is from a Morris Minor and has different spacing on the spokes whilst the lower one is from an MGA and is a slightly different pattern, but along the same lines, and there are many other variations. I like the spacing of the spokes in Roger's version. You just need to find the correct size and fitting for the Triumph; I've no idea what size the Minor would have used so can't say if the Minor version - which is quite common - is a straight fit or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Colin Lindsay said: I like the spacing of the spokes in Roger's version. You just need to find the correct size and fitting for the Triumph; Roger's photo is of the style fitted originally to (pre-facelift) Mk3 Spitfires. The Mk1 Vitesse and GT6 had the same but with a leather cover sewn round the rim. I think some versions (Mk2 GT6? Some markets?) actually used the same wheel but with soft plastic covers hiding the spokes. I can't find the definitive book at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Mk3 Spit definitely had, as I think did the TR4, the GT6 had originally a three-spoked 15" wheel with holes along the spokes rather than the 'banjo' type. I like this style of wheel but it's too big for my legs; I need a semi-dished 13" or else can't get into the driver's seat at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 I'm sure that my 72, MkIV spit, had a similar wheel with the leather cover when I first got it but I have no idea if it was the original one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan.gilbert_6384 Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Hi, quick question about the oil for the gear box. Mine is a 1976 1500 spitfire single rail with over drive. The BL book says API-GL5 hypoid 90 with hypoid 80 only as top up. Question is why do you say GL4 and specifically not GL5 ? On 30/12/2018 at 16:22, clive said: No interval given, on the basis the oil was for life. However, the life was not expected to be 10 years, let alone 50.... So a change will do absolutely no harm and will probably be a good move. Yes, drain via the drain plug, which if a hex head has a magnet attached, likely to have some swarf attached (normal) Refill with 80/90 80-90 ep oil, of GL4 spec (NOT GL5) available all sorts of places (halfords, club shop etc etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 The additives in the later GL5 will corrode the bronze bearings or washers. It's fine for most modern cars but not those of our era. Stick to GL4 for gearbox and differentials, as it's much easier to change oil than metal bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinR Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 GL5 spec oil in a gearbox is not a real problem - the problem comes from using it in a differential that has yellow metal parts. Most, but not all, formulations of GL5 oil contain a high sulphur content, that under very high temperatures and shear loads becomes corrosive to yellow metals. It's only in a differential that such temperatures and shear loads are present - in a normal gearbox application the conditions that make the oil corrosive to yellow metals is unlikely to arise. Having said that, I think it is best to only keep GL4 spec oil in the garage just in case one puts GL5 in the diff by accident ! The Gearbox will be perfectly happy with GL5, but the diff wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan.gilbert_6384 Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Hi thanks very much, both. Just looked at the BL book again and it says that for a full fill from drain down, 75W should be used. Now I'm really confused Ive fixed my leaks, i know these are old cars but being an engineer (thats when it took 5 years to become one, not like these days) I'm now trying to refill from empty. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Here's a comprehensive link for you to decide upon: https://www.classic-oils.net/Oils-by-Application-and-Type/Transmission-and-Gear-Oils/Mild-EP-Hypoid-Gear-Oils-GL3-and-4/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 makes economic sense to get just one EP80/90 GL4 and use it in the gearbox diff and your front trunions and if you have overdrive its fine on a EP 90oil triumph small chassis gearboxes have a hard life and tooth loading demands a EP oil along with mainshaft tip failures they need all the help they can get from the lubrication spec. Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 11 hours ago, alan.gilbert_6384 said: Hi thanks very much, both. Just looked at the BL book again and it says that for a full fill from drain down, 75W should be used. Now I'm really confused Ive fixed my leaks, i know these are old cars but being an engineer (thats when it took 5 years to become one, not like these days) I'm now trying to refill from empty. Thanks. As Pete says, there is absolutely no need to use anything other than a good ep 80/90 for everything. I, have been doing that for 30 years (yikes) as have many others. No need to get too hung up on what one manual says over another, go with what is proven to work and all will be well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 On trunnions, a friend in the US is very concerned about filling his with oil. I use a simple piston grease gun, filled with Hypoid, and do so with very little mess, but he has not been as successful. I've had mine for years, it looks just like this Sealey product. What grease oil guns do others find are effective? I'd like to be able to recommned on to my friend. He has found this product: which seems to be the new trend, not a catrifge but a soft tube of lubricant. Anyone else used one? JOhn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMi Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 I take the grease nipple out of the upright put somthing under the seal and just use a standard oil can no need for pressure gravity works just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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