Chris A Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 hours ago, PeteH said: E# Emergency substitute Hood?. Or just Auditioning for the local Am-Dram for the Gene Kelly Part?😁 Pete Me? More like Mary Poppins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Pete Lewis said: sorry i only have cars with a ROOF !!!!!!! Pete Wimp. Chances are your cars have the 'luxury' of 6 cylinders as well 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 yes both had the 6 but the modern only has 3 pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, Pete Lewis said: yes both had the 6 but the modern only has 3 pete Well 3 is a perfect number ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Quote Well 3 is a perfect number ... Who first said that. 3 ISN'T a perfect number ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_number C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerH Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 That is something I didn't know- wow. Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 1200cc 3 cyl 140bhp its was the nearest i could get to having a Commer TS3 love 3 Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 But, drifting back to the thread, I fitted one of these. Opens and closes very easily, unlike the original. And most importantly, on a GT6, closed is CLOSED. I got it from Amazon USA, but stock is held here as they are a standard fitment to London taxis, apparently. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 yes much simpler more reliable a good call Doug , car builder solutions show a number of cable pulled valves of a similar design ,they dont have to be a solid fix as these type of valve operates /moves so easy pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Pete Lewis said: yes much simpler more reliable a good call Doug , car builder solutions show a number of cable pulled valves of a similar design ,they dont have to be a solid fix as these type of valve operates /moves so easy pete What other fittings are required to convert from our standard crxp valve to a Car Builder version ? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Casper said: Who first said that. 3 ISN'T a perfect number ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_number C. I realised much later, at bed time , that I should have said prime number. Nobody is perfect . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 the only snagging point is on herald /vitesse smiths matrix the stubby short pipe the orig valve seals up to might need a short extension od 15mm copper adding to make a hose connector possible , depends what valve you pick some are just popped inline in the hose feed like this Cable Operated 15mm (5/8") Glass Reinforced Nylon Heater Valve | Car Builder - Kit & Classic Car Parts Specialist it just floats in space , on the hose run ....somewhere the cable will reach Pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonMember Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Also be aware that nearly all the valves available will have 15mm (5/8") pipes and need appropriate hoses. The ones on our cars are 1/2" hoses so they don't really fit. Pete's mention of 15mm copper is an option - find some 1/2" OD copper pipe and some 15mm (standard plumbing) pipe. The 15mm will slide cleanly over the outside of the 1/2" and can then be soldered on to make an adaptor to connect original size hose to the bigger stuff that will fit the valve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 The last alternative valve I tried was from a VD Caddy / Polo sort of thing; you can still get them online. They're just a straight-through valve, the lever simply blocks it off with nothing more complicated. The simplest option I found (but then I did have some lying around) was to use the reducing pipe found on the Delaney Gallay heaters; the valve is 15mm and you buy a pipe which reduces down to 1/2 inch for the matrix. One on either side means you have a straight hose from pipe to pipe / matrix with no need for anything else in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverclasper Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 I may have just had a new (lucky) one I bought about 9 years ago (couldn't find a rubber diaphragm to rebuild original), the supplier (who manufactures them), recommended leaving in open position when not in use. I also open it, at least for a few miles every time I use car to keep it flowing and clean through valve and matrix. No problems so far (there, I've said it now!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1969Mk3Spitfire Posted March 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 The replacement valve arrived today and is now fitted. It has p/n 724021 and is described as Spitfire or Herald heater valve. Interestingly, the orientation for the cable attachment is 180 deg different compared to the otherwise identical looking valve originally fitted. Looking forward, the cable was originally located forward of the valve, now it’s at the rear. Hence on the dash, what was pull out is now push in an vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, 1969Mk3Spitfire said: The replacement valve arrived today and is now fitted. It has p/n 724021 and is described as Spitfire or Herald heater valve. Interestingly, the orientation for the cable attachment is 180 deg different compared to the otherwise identical looking valve originally fitted. Looking forward, the cable was originally located forward of the valve, now it’s at the rear. Hence on the dash, what was pull out is now push in an vice versa. If It`s the one I remember. (Smiths Heater) I think it`s possible to drill out the rivet holding the top and reverse it?. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, PeteH said: If It`s the one I remember. (Smiths Heater) I think it`s possible to drill out the rivet holding the top and reverse it? Yes, on the type I've got I've seen that done. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMi Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 the early spits up to mk3 pull for on and push for off later cars the other way I believe, hence there are probably a lot of early spit where you pull the heater control out for off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Truman Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, PeteH said: If It`s the one I remember. (Smiths Heater) I think it`s possible to drill out the rivet holding the top and reverse it? Yes I did that for my Mk2 Vitesse on a locally here in Aus purchased Smiths valve purchased from an Austin Healey rebuilder (Healey Factory). Now in = OFF and out = ON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1969Mk3Spitfire Posted March 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 I don’t think that turning the base 180 degrees will work. All it would achieve is to change cable connection “from offside towards near side” to “from near side towards offside”. Otherwise, the outer cable retainer and the inner cable nipple positions would be wrong. My owners handbook shows “in equals off” but now it is “in equals fully open”. This is preferable to the previous state of it not working at all. Many thanks to you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlubikey Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 If you've got the old valve, swap the top cover/actuator over to convert the new one to pull-for-off. Cheers, Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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