Colin Lindsay Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 My Mk1 dripped hot oil on the MOT tester's head while he was standing under it... but he just wiped it off and passed the car. It made me hold my breath for a bit, though. A new steel 'bridge' on the front of the block cured that little problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Andrex is much kinder, Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Referring to ShaunW comments about the sun visors, they were optional extra on early Spitfires, so that can not be required. My Mk3 has never had any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 My Vitesse has had no sun visors fitted in my ownership (on the road with me since 1989). That's 29 MoTs at a selection of test stations passed without sunvisors........ As for GT6s and brake servos - they were only fitted as standard to the non-roto Mk3s (UK market). Some others have them as after market fitment and some don't. No MoT tester has the remotest idea whether your particular car was born with one or not (provided you don't leave clues lying about), though I grant you that the occasional one might claim to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougbgt6 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Nick, 19 minutes ago, Nick Jones said: some others have them as after market fitment and some don't. Not quite right, until the late mk3 servos were a factory option, so some came out the factory with them. 33 minutes ago, Nick Jones said: No MoT tester has the remotest idea whether your particular car was born with one or not Sorry but no. My MOT man was an apprentice in a Triumph dealership, the first time he saw my car he identified it as a late MK3 and reeled off it's updates, including servo. He looks forward to my car, takes him back to his yoof. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 He's got to be a one off! Most testers think Triumph only make bikes🤗 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 19 hours ago, thescrapman said: Referring to ShaunW comments about the sun visors, they were optional extra on early Spitfires, so that can not be required. My Mk3 has never had any. Take it this way: if it was ever fitted to your car, it needs to be now; if it wasn't, it doesn't. If you have screwholes all over the place, then something has been removed; if not, then nothing was ever fitted. Just get your story right and the tester will be happy with the explanation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just taxed my GT6 with reminder form online (no mot on it) had a box to tick to declare MOT exempt, job done. So it looks like they have finally sorted it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 Mines been off the road with clutch trouble since October in which time the MOT ran out,one of the first things i did after fixing it was get an MOT 2 weeks ago,one of the more dopey(among many) decisions to exempt old cars IMHO. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 We still don't have exemption over here, although travelling for nearly ten miles behind a classic commercial lorry on Monday past was time enough for me to find out - a few times almost the hard way - that he had no brake lights. I mentioned it to the driver at the show we both ended up at and he just laughed and told me it was MOT exempt. There's definitely still some confusion about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 Please forgive my ignorance on this one, but when you click 'mot exempt' are you not self certifying that the vehicle is road worthy. I'm sure that I read this somewhere but not sure. If this is correct are you not laying yourself open to prosecution if th boys/girls in the blue suits pull you over with a fault or there is an accident due to a vehicle problem. I'm probably totally wrong, but its a thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerH Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just like the MOT; your evaluation of the roadworthiness is only valid for the moment you do it. Again just like the MOT - if you are stopped by Mr.Plod and your car is a wreck it is your fault. Nothing changes. Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 9 hours ago, Badwolf said: Please forgive my ignorance on this one, but when you click 'mot exempt' are you not self certifying that the vehicle is road worthy. I'm sure that I read this somewhere but not sure. I think you are declaring that the vehicle meets the requirements for MOT exemption, so not modified and over 40 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Bit like the B word its all a bit NUTS This so called improvement just leaves for misunderstanding and confusion and some un roadworthy cars Most have no idea the back brakes are inoperative or out of balance let alone a slack ball joint What ever the system says get it checked by a 3rd party , gives us all peace of mind Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Yes I'm sure sooner or later it's going to get nasty with a civil lawsuit against a driver or even the law makers because an insurance company refuses to pay out. In fact I can't believe how suspiciously quiet the insurers have been..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badwolf Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Thanks all, for your insight. The insurers will be noisey enough as soon as it starts to cost them money.. then it will cost us money. Will get car mot'd soonest.. when it stops raining!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Mine was MOT last year but I haven't this year. The reason being iv had work done by a qualified mechanic who specialises in classics. He's done a good check over and I have recepts to prove it. If I had done the work my self then I would MOT the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 On 08/05/2019 at 21:41, Badwolf said: Please forgive my ignorance on this one, but when you click 'mot exempt' are you not self certifying that the vehicle is road worthy. I'm sure that I read this somewhere but not sure. If this is correct are you not laying yourself open to prosecution if th boys/girls in the blue suits pull you over with a fault or there is an accident due to a vehicle problem. I'm probably totally wrong, but its a thought! You are probably correct about the declaration being about meeting exemption criteria. However, if you get pulled for a fault, expect trouble. And if you have an accident, caused by a fault, even more so. You will need to prove you had maintained the car correctly, and t was roadworthy. The traditional way of doing that is the Most certificate. But there seem to be other approaches now. But I would expect a brake test etc to be carried out, something hard to do without an MOT bay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul H Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 Having an annual MOT is a no brainer for me in terms of safety and peace of mind Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 Mot proves nothing. Except the day you drive off with a shiner new one. An example. Mot the car on January 1st. Doesn’t move until May. Goes out have a drive around. Doesn't move until November. Goes out and has a crash. But says driver I have an mot certificate to say it’s roadworthy. Ah says plod. But your brakes failed therefore you haven’t maintained the vehicle. The mot is worthless. But I don’t say it shouldn’t be looked over by someone else. And a brake test. But really when a car isn’t driven regularly, that’s when it all goes wrong. Regular maintenance is key. After a long layoff (could be a week, could be a month) everything should be checked over. The Highway Code says you should do a steering and brake test every time you go out as well as check lights. Who does that in their modern let alone their classic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlubikey Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Anglefire said: Mot proves nothing. Except the day you drive off with a shiner new one. Except that you are doing your due diligence to show, on that one day each year, that your car was roadworthy, same as any other car owner. I agree with the others. An MOT is for me is a "no brainer". If anything bad happens, I can wave it under the nose of the judge and say in terms of road worthyness I've been doing the same as you M'Lud. You are of course quite right Anglefire, regular maintenance is also vital, but I don't think it is a substitute for getting an MOT. Perhaps you weren't suggesting that? Cheers, Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Lindsay Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Anglefire said: Mot proves nothing. Except the day you drive off with a shiner new one. I once read a review of some religious period or other; the person writing said that for once a year it makes people reflect on things, they think about things they might otherwise take for granted, and appreciate the things they have. The MOT is the same. I would probably not otherwise look at tyres, seatbelts, brakes etc until the car itself told me they weren't working, but the MOT man will tell me that those cracks in the tyre sidewall are potential blow-out risks, or that slight bit of fraying in the seatbelt that I thought was ok is actually illegal and dangerous. Your average daily driver will not bother with their car until the day it refuses to start - or stop - no matter how many years that is. Twice this week I've driven behind drivers in vehicles with no brake lights whatsoever. Yes, a new bulb might fail on the day of the test as soon as you leave the test centre, but it's an event that makes drivers think - even for only one day - and new tyres, bulbs and brake pads should last longer than a day, so the rest of us might just be marginally safer as a result. I don't want to be hurt or killed due to someone else's laziness, or carelessness, or the fact that by saving £30 on the test they can afford more beer or ciggies. When you pull some old dear out of a car after she's lost control, point out four completely bald tyres, and hear her say: "Oh dear, I never knew...." you realise then what you're facing. It may prove nothing, other than the fact that your car is roadworthy at the time of the test, but when you see how far gone some people's cars are, even bringing them up to MOT standard, or getting them off the road as a failure, is a vast step towards road safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 2 years ago during the MOT the tester (old school classic friendly) told me the rear brakes were doing zilch on the offside,i had no idea,felt normal when driving.The fault was a modern wheel cylinder that lasted about 6 months before p..ing fluid everywhere. Regular maintenance yes,but i think regular/all year round use is more important,mine goes wrong after sitting in the garage doing nothing. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglefire Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 Steve, that is my point really. Need to be used and looked after. And in my case its not the money, as I've said before my local does it for £15 - but they don't know the vagaries of classics - properly cocked up my carbs last time. When I get a minute, I'll get them to check the brakes as a third party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 At this moment in time, only 1 of my cars has a valid MOT and it was the only one that didn't deserve one. It had to be one of the dodgiest MOT I have ever encountered, and was only 3 weeks old when I got the car. It was physically impossible for the rear brakes to have been working at the time of the MOT, and the handbrake was also totally inoperative. The outer headlights were both faulty (something wrong with the halogen replacement units, they did not have any discernible light pattern)., worn out suspension bushes, removable jacking points (rusted away round the outside) and numerous other minor things I went over the car with a fine toothed comb but someone else could have just driven it round as it had an MOT oblivious to it being possibly lethal. So having an MOT isn't everything. Nearly all the issues now sorted ready for a more legitimate MOT later this year by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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